Your Comments, Our Honest Dialogue

We read your comments, texts, and questions and follow them into honest conversations about faith, failure, and everyday discipleship. From tough topics like sin, leadership, and humility to lighter moments with old stories and even conspiracy theories, this episode keeps it real. We also share simple, practical habits for Bible reading and journaling. Tune in for an episode that addresses your comments and questions!

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Welcome And Why We’re Reading Comments<br>

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hey everybody. Uh welcome back. This is just a shorter episode. We've been getting so much positive feedback from you guys through Spotify, Apple Music, Buzz Sprout. You guys will leave comments or sometimes you guys will just text, reach out to Brody or I. So we would just wanted to take some time and go over some of these comments. Some of them have like questions or suggestions in them. So we're just gonna kind of briefly go over them. But we really appreciate your feedback. Also, sometimes we'll get questions like, hey, if I do have a question, where should I send it? And I'll link the email down below, but it's media at swoutfitters.com. I'll link it down below, but sometimes we will get questions of like, hey, if I have a question or a suggestion, where should I send it? Email and we'll get back to you. But yeah, that's what this episode's gonna be. Thanks for all the feedback. We love to hear it. Welcome to No Sanity Required.

SPEAKER_00 1:01

Welcome to No Sanity Required from the Ministry of Snowbird Wilderness Outfitters, a podcast about the Bible, culture, and stories from around the globe.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

One thing I think would be good to do an episode about soon is as we're going through these um comments and a few questions, maybe, but a lot of comments. Uh I think we were just talking, and I think we'll soon do something on the tension between struggling with personal sin and what disqualifies you from doing some sort of ministry. So there's one particular question that came in an email where it was very brief, but it basically guys struggling with the I don't know if it's an addiction to pornography. I don't know the it wasn't a lot of clarity. Struggling or I think it said battling pornography.

SPEAKER_02 1:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

Does that disqualify me from working in my church?

SPEAKER_02 1:58

The college ministry.

SPEAKER_01 1:59

Yeah, yeah, college ministry. And I'm so my mind goes in that situation, it goes to okay, what does battling mean? Are you really battling and fighting and winning more days than you're losing? Or are you or or is it, oh no, you're enslaved to this, you know? I do think we should do an episode. So that's not comments, but it is some questions that we've had asked. I also had someone ask uh recently, I got an email where someone was asking about there's someone in leadership at their church who is a known adulterer. And so should should this guy have his family in his church? Those are hard things to tackle and wrestle through. And you know, I I my mind it went back to in the Duke episode when he was saying, after all that stuff with our dad, not just one thing I appreciate about his perspective, not just the struggle of looking at a pastor and going, what's this guy's secret sin? But also the way the leadership of that church treated Duke and the rest of our family. Yeah. Kicked him out of the the church. You know, they lived in the parsonage and kicked him out of the house, and then they had to go live in, he said, you know, some basements. And again, I was I just I'd left home and didn't see that perspective.

SPEAKER_02 3:17

I didn't see that perspective.

SPEAKER_01 3:18

Yeah, but I remember they lived in one of my aunt's basement for a while, and then they stayed at somebody else's little apartment. So him talking about going to church and looking around going, I don't want to be here, I don't trust anybody. It is hard, man, because like there's a lot of people in leadership that have had a lot of failure. And that but what I want to do in that episode, we'll we'll do that episode soon. I want to try to give some hope. And hey, how people respond when they falter and fail, that's what's most important.

SPEAKER_02 3:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:55

And and if somebody responds in humility, then that that's completely different than somebody that gets defensive or tries to make excuses or denies you.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

Totally.

SPEAKER_01 4:07

Uh but today we'll just read some. Thank y'all for your comments. They're really helpful. We love reading them and um a lot of positive encouragement. I get, I don't know about you, I think you get a lot of like texts, people more from your personal inner circle that listen. And um I get a lot of those. Yeah. Um, yeah, let's read some of these.

SPEAKER_02 4:27

Yeah. It's also been cool. Like people who maybe I've worked with at Snowbird years ago that I don't even realize still listen, will text me and be like, hey, loved this episode, and it was super encouraging. So it's really encouraging to hear from you guys, like Bertie just said. But we'll start with this one. One of our more recent episodes with Duke and Paco. And this guy says, This was great. I didn't know how much I missed these guys. I was on support staff. Was that like element basically? Okay. Yeah. I was on support staff in '99, 2001. And it was every bit as wild as these episodes described. I remember the day that Little let Paco have it for taking the suburban down the hill. I felt bad for him. Great to hear these stories. That's funny.

SPEAKER_03 5:12

That's really funny.

Conspiracy Theories And Productivity Limits<br>

SPEAKER_02 5:13

Yeah. This one's from our Israel episode. This one's kind of funny. It says, Mr. Brody, I would love to hear your opinion on some modern conspiracy theories, such as faking the moon landing, faking the moon landing or the Titanic being intentional. Also, what is the beaver shark? Loaded question here.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

It's a very loaded question. Let's take this one at a time. My thoughts on the moon landing. My thoughts on did they sink the Titanic? On purpose. On purpose. And then what's a beaver shark? Well, I'd like to first back up and let's talk about Sasquatch. Because let's talk about the Mothman.

SPEAKER_03 5:55

Mothman.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

Let's talk about the dog soldiers. Um aliens. Who killed JFK?

SPEAKER_02 6:04

Bigfoot.

SPEAKER_01 6:05

Bigfoot. Did Epstein kill himself? I'll be honest, man. I just I very deliberately intentionally choose not to go down those. I just don't get into that stuff. People love talking about it. I don't, and there's 12 hours of productivity in a day. I'm I'm I'm awake. I try to sleep seven hours a night. So I'm awake 17 hours a day. Now last night I slept three and a half hours. I got I got home at 1.30 or something from the airport. But um most nights try to sleep seven hours. 17 hours in a day. You figure 12 hours are per super productive. That sounds you're like, wait, what are you doing the other five? I don't know. I'm just telling you, after living this long, I think realistically, 12 productive hours is a good day. And my 12 hours are slammed.

SPEAKER_02 7:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 7:03

Today, I have way more to do than I can get done in the window of time I've got, which means I will start tomorrow behind. Um and as we're recording this, we're going into I've got all of our board of directors is getting ready to come in. We got people flying in from South Florida, Colorado, um, middle Georgia, um, driving across the state of North Carolina, two of our board members. People come from all over. We're gonna get our board in here. We've got two days of long meetings and conversations. To be honest. Also, I've I am the father to Moses Holloway, aka DJ Holloway. Right. I have uh three adult children that all live in three different states, one a different country. I don't care if we landed on the moon. I don't care. I don't know. I don't care. I don't care about the Titanic. That sounds terrible. But them people, even if they hadn't have sunk that day, they'd all be dead and gone now anyway. You know, like if it's if it was a boat that sunk a couple weeks ago or 20 years ago, I would care. I care about 9-11. There are survivors of that that are still dealing with it. There are people that would still be living if they hadn't died. And then I care about 9-11, it's in my generation, and I'll tell you that we got attacked and people died. Like it's not so that's as far as it goes for me. Conspiracy theories. I watched in the last two years, I watched a good friend of mine get his life literally destroyed by obsessing over conspiracy theories. The dude lost his common sense, and so I don't know, man. I don't know, buddy. I don't know what to tell you. Thank you for the commenting question, but I don't know if we landed on a moon.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

Right. I'll tell you mine.

SPEAKER_01 9:05

Okay. Now I do love to hear y'all all talk about it. So this so I'm gonna now pass this to JB, and we're gonna talk about the moon landing and the Titanic. The Titanic's your thing. No, the moon landing. The moon landing, okay. All right, all right.

SPEAKER_02 9:18

I believe that the moon landing was fake. I fully believe that.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

Okay, are are you uh how much of evidence, how much of it is evidenced by the flags?

SPEAKER_02 9:28

Yes, it the flag waving. The flag is a big part of it.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

But didn't they don't they say they just had a wire?

SPEAKER_02 9:33

Yes. It also, if you just look at it, it just I'm like, no way. Like you can literally see shadows of like lights set up. Really? Like, yes, if you look up pictures of the moon landing, it's like bro, this is not the moon.

SPEAKER_01 9:48

Okay, what about when they tried to get the one dude? Is it Neil Armstrong? The guy tried to get him to put his hand on the Bible. It's if you ever seen it, and he did he won't do it.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

Yeah, he won't do it, yeah. And also, it just tracks like we were trying to beat the Soviet Union to space, the race to space. Oh, it worked in America. I love America, but I I think we punch below the belt sometimes. Sometimes, and we had to get to the moon first. We it was a morale boost for America.

SPEAKER_01 10:15

Hey, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. That's what little Holloway says.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

You ain't cheating, you ain't trying.

Moon Landing And Titanic Arguments<br>

SPEAKER_02 10:20

But I'm kind of with Brody, like I think it's fun to kind of discuss and joke around. I believe the moon landing is fake. Now, listen, I don't know about the Titanic. A couple of weeks ago, we had a funny, it was uh in good spirit, a conspiracy theory night. It was fun at Austin Scott's house.

SPEAKER_01 10:39

I didn't go, but I got the I got the play-by-play.

SPEAKER_02 10:42

It was hilarious. We all wore like tin foil hats. It was so funny.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

What did you argue?

SPEAKER_02 10:47

Well, this actually gets political.

SPEAKER_01 10:49

Okay, wait. So the the whole premise of the night was each person had to argue their conspiracy. So you're trying to convince people.

SPEAKER_02 10:57

You can make one up. Like Issa, our social media gal, made up a conspiracy that Austin Scott is adopted because both of his siblings have like blonde hair and Austin has like dark hair, and she like pulled pictures from his childhood and stuff. So hers was more of like a joke. But other people, like Solomon Ryan, he actually did one on the Titanic and he kind of kind of convinced me that it was somebody sunk it. So basically, his the theory is like there's like two ships. One's what the Olympic and the Titanic? Olympia? I don't know. And basically, they like switched the ships out and sunk the Olympia slash Titanic, but the real Titanic didn't actually sink. I don't know. What does it matter?

SPEAKER_01 11:40

But did all those people die?

SPEAKER_02 11:41

Yes. Oh, I believe that actually happened. So that part happened, yes, and they sunk.

SPEAKER_01 11:46

I don't even those people probably thought they were riding on the Titanic.

SPEAKER_02 11:49

Yeah, I don't even know like the reasoning or the theory behind it, but I I did Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Because it had something to do with the Hershey's people, those some of the Rockefellers or the Hershey's or some of the wealthy people. I don't know. Wait, when it was said and done, you're like, I think they sunk the Titanic. All right, I'm in. I'm with you. So so far you've got me convinced. Okay, to answer the question, I believe the moon landing was fake and the Titanic was sunk on purpose. Yep. Okay, keep going.

SPEAKER_02 12:13

The one that I did was that um the first lady of France, her name is Brigitte McCron.

SPEAKER_01 12:19

Oh, yeah, I know about this, is a man. Everybody thinks she's a man, they think she's a dude, and she's a dude, and she her husband, who's the president or whatever, was her boy, her student and became her boyfriend.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

She was like 41, he was 14 when they met.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

Woo.

SPEAKER_02 12:34

Anyways, not to get into that. I'll send you my PowerPoint if you guys want it, my conspiracy PowerPoint. But that was a fun night. All to say, we had a good time, wore tinfoil tinfoil hats and joked around. I don't know. Moving on.

SPEAKER_01 12:47

I don't think Bigfoot's real. Sasquatch is not real. Really? I don't, because I would have killed one.

SPEAKER_02 12:52

I recently met a guy on my adventure, and he is the host of the show Expedition Bigfoot. Ever heard of that?

SPEAKER_01 13:00

No.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

They it's a show.

SPEAKER_01 13:02

Actually, I have heard of that. Yep. I have heard of that.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

The main guy. He was with me. That's pretty cool. I asked him. I was like, is Bigfoot real? What'd he say? He said yes.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

100%.

SPEAKER_02 13:11

He said, I've seen poop from Bigfoot. He said, I've seen fur from Bigfoot. All this stuff.

SPEAKER_01 13:17

That was poop from a middle schooler that just been at camp for a week. Spent$120 in a snack shack on talkies and money buttons.

SPEAKER_02 13:27

Yeah, he had some interesting stories, but yeah, I don't know if I believe in Bigfoot.

SPEAKER_01 13:32

Do you know about this guy that uh there was a couple that came to the marriage conference at Snowbird, and we found out the dude was like die hard Bigfoot guy. Like believed it. He's like, Bigfoot's real. And so the guys in his, it was like four couples. The other guys come up and say, Hey, our guy swears that Bigfoot's real. And he and he's read and studied that this area is like a known Sasquatch area. So we set this whole thing, this is a grown man. This is a marriage converse. We set this whole thing up where he goes out looking. He takes some of his tools and he goes looking. And we have Brody Ellis dressed in the Bigfoot.

SPEAKER_00 14:17

No way.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

And we went up past the old Goliath swing up in the woods. We mapped him out, and the dude's up there, and Brody was up there, gave him a little siding.

SPEAKER_02 14:26

That's hilarious. And you know he tells that story. Oh, you know, to this day. He's like, I saw I saw Bigfoot. That's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

Yeah, um, yeah, anyway.

SPEAKER_02 14:36

But the beaver shark is a hundred percent real.

SPEAKER_01 14:40

They're real. I've seen. Have you not seen it on a t-shirt? Yeah, come on, real quick. The beaver shark isn't making on a t-shirt if you're not real.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

Exactly. And the t-shirt that we have that the Snack Shack sold, that's exactly what they look like.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

And it's to scale.

SPEAKER_02 14:54

It's to scale. Yeah. But the beaver shark is a creature that lives in the Nanahilly River. Half beaver, half shark.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

It's really simple.

SPEAKER_02 15:04

And that's it. Really? Yep.

SPEAKER_01 15:06

So that's that's why you have that's that's one of the main reasons you have to wear footwear. You can't go barefooted. Exactly. People think it's for some other reason or slipping on a rock so you're getting your foot.

SPEAKER_02 15:16

No, it's because beaver shark will bite your toes off. Yep. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

They will not bite, they're like me, they will not bite Chacos.

Response To Brody’s Dad Story<br>

SPEAKER_02 15:25

Okay, moving on. We got a ton of feedback from um the episode where Brody talked about his dad. So once again, I know I've said this a lot, but truly I'm so grateful that you shared that. And obviously, it's impacted so many people. I think that's the most comments we've gotten on an episode, truly. And like texts I've got about it. So this guy says, cannot even begin to put into words how encouraging, convicting, and insightful this entire episode was. The Lord definitely spoke to me through this one. And these tough lessons and scenes from the story are things that I will probably always have in my back pocket from now on. So thanks so much for being willing to share these events, even down to the very uncomfortable details. Really enjoyed the discussion part at the end, too, praying for you guys. So that's super encouraging to hear.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

Thank you for saying that.

Bible Journaling That Actually Helps<br>

SPEAKER_02 16:13

Um, and we'll link all these episodes that we're talking about down below. So if you missed them, definitely encourage you guys to um go check it out. I have one more that I want to talk about, and this is actually really cool. We had Avery Culvert on to talk about her experience with Element, and we had a comment from someone who is now hired and is gonna be on Element. She said, but this is this was posted and commented way before the decision was even made. So it's really cool, full circumlimited. She said, as someone who's in the application process of Element, this was so encouraging to listen to and hear more of what it would look like to be on Element. Seriously, I'm somehow even more excited to complete this application process after listening. So this is Ella Dean. She's coming to work on staff or element this summer. So that's really cool that she listened to that and it was an encouragement to her. Um, but yeah. I have one more from the everyday carry. And this one asks a question, so I'll read it. Um, love this and love you, man. Thanks for the input. I'm also all for it when it comes to the rants, rabbit holes, tangents, etc. Even if you just did an episode of ramblings and stories, I'm sure a lot of us would absolutely listen to every bit of it. Ha ha. I'd be interested to hear about what journaling looks like for you when reading scripture. And do you recommend journaling? If so, why?

SPEAKER_01 17:38

Okay, yeah, we can take we'll we'll go ahead and answer that. But also, uh, that guy or lady mentioned an episode of rambling and stories. I think me and Hank want to do that. I want or I asked Hank if he would do it. He said we'd like to. I'd love to sit down with Hank and we when me and Hank are together, we'll tell stories.

SPEAKER_02 17:59

Me and Laylee will joke. I'll be like, Yeah, just met with Brody and Hank or whatever, and she'll say, How many times was Crapping Your Pants mentioned? Or like, How many times was poop mentioned? I'm like, surprisingly, only twice. Yeah, it's fun hearing those guys talk.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

So funny.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

Yeah, we can like I want Hank to tell that one story about catching the guy in the boat, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

Yeah, that would be cool.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

He can tell he can just tell stories, stories for hours, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:25

Um journaling for me, I if you're watching, uh so it's pretty it's pretty basic. I just you know, like so. This is when I was jotting some notes um on Israel and the future. This is back before we did those episodes. I don't know you don't have to zoom in, but it's like you can just see you can't see what I wrote there, but it's just pages of just scribbled notes. Um I'm not I don't have a great journaling system. Um but I do I do write, I fill notebooks up, and I never go back and read them. But yeah, and I had so I got a little gunshot. I went years without journaling, and I think on my iPad, I I went to doing it electronically, and now I'm back to doing it primarily manually because I when the when the old cabin burned, so when Kilby, my oldest daughter, was born, I started journaling to her. When Tucker was born, started journaling to him. When Laylee was born, started journaling to her. I did it with each kid with um with Tuck, it was cool. I had a handmade, it was a big piece of leather, and I had it, I had hard, hard, hard paper bound into it, and this big strap. It was really cool. And I just I just wrote the man book and I just started writing Principles of Manhood, Journaling Thoughts, Memories. Well, all that stuff got burned in a fire. I had uh, I had personally written a commentary on the book of Romans. Yeah, and it was I think I had a milk crate, I had one milk crate full of journals that was Romans verse by verse, all 16 chapters, and all that burned. Um so it made me a little gun shy, and so then I realized okay, I need to get back in the saddle because part of me, part for me, part of the value and benefit of it is it's just keeping me active in my study time. Um so I don't I don't have any kind of a system. A lot of people have like a really defined system.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

There's um what's it called where like let's say the thing is pray and each letter stands for something. What is that called? A cross stick, right? A cross stick, yeah. A lot of people will do those, which I know are helpful, but I'm kind of with you. A lot of my journaling in scripture is just rewriting scripture or like verses that I want to memorize. It's normally just me kind of like rewriting it and kind of breaking it down.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

I think that's something what I what JB just said is what I would encourage you to do. If you're like, I don't know how to journal, I don't know what to write, um, start handwriting scripture. So whatever you're reading, write a write a section of that for that morning, or just say, I want to study through like I remember, okay, I heard MacArthur say one time, somebody asked him about something along these lines or about his personal Bible. I think they asked him, and I get this question a lot too is there a difference between your personal Bible study and devotions and your sermon prep? And uh people have a pretty strong opinion on this. Some people think you should have completely separate if you're a teacher, you should be just doing like devotional stuff, but then you should also do your prep separate. And my brain doesn't work that way. That would it would I think it would come across as pretty sterile and disconnected. So I whatever I'm gonna be teaching, I just dive headlong into it.

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Yeah, I was about to say you immerse like when we were doing the podcast on Israel, that's where what you were studying. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:14

That's right. All day, every day. That's where I'm thinking. I'm listening. If I got to drive to Murphy and back, I might listen to a sermon, or and that's that's what works for me. But um MacArthur said he was a pretty new Christian, or maybe it was when he was first getting serious about studying the Bible. And I think he he said, I want to, I want to learn, I want to really get familiar with every book of the Bible. So he took I think he took the Gospel of John and he read it every day for 30 days, and in a 90-day window, he had read it like 50 times and he's just reading. Um and so for me, figuring out ways to familiarize yourself with scripture and writing the scripture out like what you're describing, I think is a good way to do that.

SPEAKER_02 23:04

I agree.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

If I if I write out a psalm, I'm just gonna remember it more. I think you'd probably some way.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

Yeah. Agreed. Yeah, you got any comments recently? You've sent me, I feel like a ton.

Old Camp Memories And Lawnmower Tim Tease<br>

SPEAKER_01 23:18

Yeah, I got quite a few. Um here's one you sent me that is uh back to the element. Just wanted to say this was powerful. This we know this guy. This is a good uh friend. He's a local business owner and ministry partner. Just want to say this was powerful. This is the element Avery interview. Yes. It even hit me as an adult believer who has been born again since I was 29 years old. This moved me. It's outstanding to hear about young, passionate adults like Avery. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Um, yeah, hold on. I got I got two that I want to read that are pretty fun. This is Duke and Paco. Man, the podcast. This so this is the guy that worked this their their summers. He worked a couple of those summers. I think he worked um maybe like '99 in 2000. Man, the podcast with Duke and Paco was a throwback. I remember those years. Y'all drove Duke to the hospital in my maroon 96 F-150, I think. It had fuel in it and the keys were in it. That was when Duke got stung. Um, me, Zach Williams, so not so there's a famous Zach Williams singer. He's like a worship guy. Uh I forget what he sings, but we've sung a song or two.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

There's another Zach Williams that's the lead singer for a band called The Lone Bellow.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:42

So that's Zach Williams.

SPEAKER_02 24:44

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:45

He worked here with this guy and with Duke. Um, so me and Zach Williams um stayed with you and Little in the cabin in '98. I worked uh that for a season um at Andrew's truss part-time for some extra money. Little was pregnant with Kilby, so that would have been fallen '99. Kilby was born in 2000. So many stories from mountain surfing, worship in the little old church, swimming at the community pool, interesting conversations, and witnessing some weird things from Lawnmower Tim. Have we ever talked about Tim?

SPEAKER_02 25:22

Uh-huh. I don't think.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

Different episode.

unknown 25:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

Funny guy. Sad ending to that story, but funny dude.

SPEAKER_02 25:31

Lawnmower Tim.

SPEAKER_01 25:32

I'll give you a I'll give you a spoiler alert.

SPEAKER_02 25:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 25:35

Or not spoiler alert, a teaser.

SPEAKER_03 25:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:38

I get a call. We're in the old cabin and we had a phone in there. And I'd gone and talked at this church, this little country church here in West North Carolina. Not here in the valley, it's but not far from here, maybe an hour. And went and talked to, I think I talked to a Sunday school class, like the adult Sunday school class. And a few nights later, the phone rings, and I answer the phone, and literally, here's what I hear on the other end. You don't know me, but I know you. It's like, this guy's stalker. This guy, what is this, a joke? And he starts telling me things about my family, my mom, my aunts, my dad. Well, what it was, this guy grew up with my parents and aunts and uncles here in Western North Carolina, and then he got drafted in the Vietnam War. And um it he he has uh childhood of abuse, crazy story. We need to tell his story sometime. Went to war, but he ended up, he's like, man, I'm on disability. Um and I want to come over and spend the summer. So have you ever heard of the house of Tim? Have y'all heard of that? So down where the girl shed is, the Moomba shed, and that there's a there's a door right in the middle of that. The original structure down there was one room, and we built one room about the size of the studio, the set here, and that was where Tim lived for that summer and fall. Yeah, and it was called the House of Tim, and he mowed, and he used his disability check to buy a snapper lawn mower from True Value Hardware at Andrew's, and he would mow. Well, back then we didn't have lawns like we do at camp with trees and landscaping, it was just a raw piece of land with a couple cabins. So we had a few sections that we would mow so kids could play frisbee in football. And uh, so this guy that's writing this, uh, Tim threatened to kill him. Oh, and I'm pretty sure he was serious. This guy and some other young dudes were ribbing, were giving him a hard time. And uh we need to tell the Tim story sometime.

SPEAKER_02 27:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

Um, back then Zach Williams didn't want to sing and play his guitar in front of people.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

Dang, that's crazy. Now he's in a band.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

Yeah, has been for 15 years, like 20 years, whatever. He's made a career of it, lives in Nashville. Um, and he asks about a couple other people. Anyway, y'all were cracking me up about the train tracks and all of that. I love it. I hope y'all get to have more folks on to talk about the old days. Maybe we'll have that dude on.

SPEAKER_02 28:13

Yeah.

Israel Feedback And Teaching Youth Biblically<br>

SPEAKER_01 28:13

Uh good morning, brother. I just listened to your podcast on Israel. I did get a lot of feedback on Israel.

SPEAKER_02 28:18

Yeah, me too.

SPEAKER_01 28:19

I had a guy yesterday uh say to me, he's with a work team that's here at camp right now, and he said, Hey, I want to talk to you about the Israel stuff. That'd be interesting.

SPEAKER_03 28:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

Um I'm glad you guys tackled it. You did a great job. We've had many conversations with our boys, and this is some of the youth uh about this, and some of the youth at our church. We're seeing the same thing in the youth these days. Pointing them to a biblical outlook is the only way to handle this subject. My oldest is in the military and is faced with this discussion more and more, and he loves the word of God and diving into theology, but is also around his generational ideologies. Again, great job moving through the topic. Love you guys. Continue to pray for for and thank the Lord for how he has blessed SWO since step first stepped foot on that property in '97. I need to get one of the I need to get the book soon. Have a great day. Always forward. Um yeah. So thank y'all. Everyone who's commented, that guy's name's Scott, and he worked here. Uh he's a good friend, and his wife, Carrie, worked here. They both worked here a long time ago, but like pre-Zach Maybrie, Sean. Yeah. They were here during Duke's era. So that Duke and Paco episode, man, it triggered a lot of a lot of comments and personal texts that people sent. Yeah. That's pretty cool.

Suggestions Requested And Closing

SPEAKER_02 29:33

Yeah. Sweet.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

All right.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

Well, leave us a comment if you think we should talk about something or yeah, suggestions.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

Yeah. We got a long list of things we're going to cover, but we're always needing more suggestions. And I do want to do something on pornography and like maybe even beyond that, less about pornography. That would be part of it, but also what disqualifies you from what agreed. You know, and 'cause it's hard to know, find that balance of living between shame and guilt, freedom and forgiveness, and how do I get involved?

SPEAKER_02 30:10

Like, what am I what can I do when I've fallen morally or yeah, I mean, even for churches or just like for supporting a brother and sister in a struggle, like you said something yesterday. You said grace has a backbone. So I think like even stuff like that, like okay, yeah, giving grace, but also if you need to yank a knot out of someone, you know, you can.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Do it.

SPEAKER_02 30:32

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

Yep. All right, cool. Thanks.

SPEAKER_00 30:38

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