No Sanity Required
No Sanity Required is a weekly podcast hosted by Brody Holloway and Snowbird Outfitters. Each week, we engage culture and personal stories with a Gospel-driven perspective. Our mission is to equip the Church to pierce the darkness with the light of Christ by sharing the vision, ideas, and passions God has used to carry us through 26 years of student ministry. Find more content at swoutfitters.com.
No Sanity Required
Navigating Change On and Off the Field | Interview with Katie Cousins
In this episode, Brody and Katie Cousins share their annual update. Brody reads and responds to listener comments from the last episode, leading into a conversation about staying informed without getting lost in cultural noise and outrage. Katie also shares exciting news from her soccer journey, offering a behind-the-scenes look at professional soccer, navigating change, and moving forward with faith, clarity, and resilience.
Other Podcasts with Katie:
Living Boldly For Christ as a Pro Athlete
Living Boldly For Christ as a Pro Athlete Pt. 2
Living Boldly For Christ as a Pro Athlete Pt. 3
Trusting the Lord in Seasons of Waiting
Katie's Book "Just Be Faithful"
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So Katie came today to went home, took off your work clothes. You've been splitting firewood, put on uh a shirt that says Jesus Saves, and are those your old soccer, your last soccer club? That's the warmups.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, the pants, my training pants.
SPEAKER_01:And we're not videoing, we're just audioing. Which before we get into what's next for you, it might be cool to have some conversation about this. Um because it's not gonna take us a lot of time to it's not gonna be a full episode because our folks know you. It's more just an update. And uh we were, I guess it was a week or so ago now, as this is dropping. We were talking about the immigration stuff, and I think you asked me, you and Hack. Some of our listeners will know Haley Hack. She's just known as Hack here. She's the manager over the the gear store, Snack Shack. She oversees all of our retail stuff. And I think y'all are asking, okay, what's a source to go to to learn what you need to know about cultural issues, who's speaking to this, where's there some commentary on this that's not one-sided or from a certain angle? And I think what started that?
SPEAKER_02:You had seen a post from somebody that we both know about I don't remember exactly, but when you're in the social media world, you're just constantly seeing stuff, anyways. And I have been seeing stuff, and I was like, okay, I want to take the correct stance on this and be informed by it, but I don't know where where to read or where to look. Like, am I am I gonna look at a source that I think is maybe you know correct or having the correct biblical view on stuff, but then I don't know. So I and I think she was in the same boat too. Like, we want to be informed correctly and properly, and so we're like, what's this das, Brody?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, because we talked about this in that episode, that last episode, where you don't know what you don't know, and then you're kind of reduced to short, what did Zach call it? Short form content. I think is the phrase he used. I've never heard that before. Maybe that's a common phrase or not. I don't know, but it does make sense. It's short form content, it's just sound bites, snapshots, snippets. You can really make something mean whatever you need it to mean for your for your opinion. But then what happens is you end up scooping up people that are that mean well, they're just uninformed.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And, you know, Paul, the Apostle Paul, I you know, I always, before I give the Apostle Paul's quote, I always challenge you and Layle and all of the young men and women at s at Snowbird to be informed, to do the work, um, to have a reason behind the answers you give for different things. Not just not just spiritual things, but um cultural things and yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I think that's why we come to you guys, because we trust y'all, and we know y'all are staying in tune with it and digging into it and uh and this goes back to the Apostle Paul's quote.
SPEAKER_01:He says, I would not have you to be uninformed, brothers, or to be ignorant. And he's talking about the gospel, but he's talking about um the resurrection. Like, hey, there's eyewitnesses to this, a whole lot of people saw it. This is not, you don't have to be uninformed, you can do the research. Luke did the research, wrote two books on it. Um, Luke and Acts. So there's the the the you just gotta do the work. And in that, in that era, it would have been the work of research back then was a lot harder. But you can, there are eyewitnesses to the resurrection. So he was saying, don't be ignorant, don't be uninformed, don't just let the culture around you tell you what to believe. Yeah. And he's saying that with all of his New Testament letters, he's writing to churches that are being influenced by the culture around them. You know, we know that in Ephesus there was a massive temple to a female Greek, I think Greek deity named Diana. And at one point in the book of Acts, the city of Ephesus has a riot over views that are affecting gospel views that are affecting the Ephesians view of this goddess, this deity. And when he writes to the Corinthians, their their worldview is being shaped by Corinthian pagan ideology and theology. And so it's not a stretch to say that Paul was writing the letters he wrote. He was speaking to people that were in these different cultural settings, and he's saying, Don't be uninformed and ignorant, know what you're talking about. The gospel is it we can defend the gospel.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:It's defendable because of the eyewitness accounts. And I think you can take that same challenge he gives them, don't be uninformed, and you can apply it. You see, in the scripture, in that same letter, Paul will tell them, hey, there's a worldly wisdom and there's a godly wisdom. He'll also say the spiritual or godly man is discerned. That means he has the ability to discern right from wrong, good from evil, and to not get caught up in the jargon. You know, there are words that get thrown around today, words like trauma, trigger, um, nuance that are like have become cultural buzzwords that those words all have meanings, but a lot of times people don't mean what those words really mean. Yeah. They mean something more culturally trending. And Paul would say, as a Christian, you can be discerning. He says the spiritual man is discerned. So what we're trying to do is challenge people to be discerning. And so when we were having that conversation, had a conversation with you and Hack, also had a conversation with you and Laley, where Laley, I mentioned this in that episode, but where Laley have been invited to partake in a protest. And this is where discernment comes in in both y'all's instances and in Hack's instance. All three of y'all knew this doesn't feel right, but I don't know why. Okay, that's you had spiritual discernment. And what spiritual discernment does is it gives you an on-ramp to then pursue wisdom and understanding into something. Does that make sense the way I said that?
SPEAKER_02:Like seeking, okay, this doesn't feel right.
SPEAKER_01:Why and why this is and like you said, for you, y'all have the benefit of being able to come to me or come to us, come to the team. You got you got under shepherds and leaders in your life that you trust. But some people maybe don't don't have someone that they trust quite that way, or maybe they um are in between churches or they're off to college and they don't have a home church at school and they're plugged into a ministry, and it can just be tricky. Um Lord willing, the local church, the the pastors, shepherds, leaders, the older women mentoring the younger women, the shepherds, the elders, the deacons, are hopefully accessible and available to people where they can seek that out. Where I get concerned is when pastors and elders and leaders and deacons start to really post a lot of stuff on their own social media that's more cultural. I don't think that's necessarily helpful. And so we, you know, we try to stay out of uh uh we don't we don't try to stay out of cultural issues, but that's not what this is first and foremost about. But No Sanity Required is a podcast about culture. I mean, our tagline says culture and the Bible and stories. So we need to, as part of NSR's platform, we've got to tackle cultural issues, but we always do that from a biblical and informed view. And one of the things that I'm I'm grateful that you seek those answers and Laley seeks those answers and hack seeks those answers, and I think that's important because um the other side of it is it's it's not just you're seeking so you don't go down the woke or progressive path, but also so you don't go down the radical right wing path, Christian nationalism. It's like, okay, where does a Christian discern how to live their life in the middle of all this craziness? And you've seen, you've, you know, everyone here, all the listeners here know your story and the stuff that happened to you in LA. I mean, you've been ground zero for this. I mean, you like a post that somebody else makes and your world turns upside down.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And even reposted even before that, there were some things like the team wanted to do, not in regards to LGBTQ stuff, but other issues. And I just remember thinking, this doesn't this doesn't feel right. And I would just err on the side of, no, I'm not gonna partake in this or partake in this conversation, or um, like one time they were wearing a t-shirt for like abortion stuff, because we were the team was going to DC and they were having the huge march there, and they're like, We're gonna wear the t-shirt. And I was like, I am not, I'm not wearing this shirt. So there was like other stuff too that happened that year.
SPEAKER_01:Did you take heat over that one? Or is it more just comments?
SPEAKER_02:No, just comments. I it was weird. I didn't get a lot of heat for that, but the repost on my Instagram story is what caught all the heat.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. It's interesting that well, even we were talking that last episode, Rob had spoken with a person who was um they were talking about immigration. This was a person who's a believer, works in ministry, and she was saying he said something like, He was talking about atrocities that are caused from from the open border policies of the last administration, and how hey, we have to be aware of both sides of this. We don't want to close our borders and not let people in. Yeah. We don't want to open our borders and let anybody in. We have to have common sense. And uh and she said she he he t he talked about a couple people that had had terrible things happen to them. And she said, Yeah, but I know good people that are here trying to work hard and make a living. And she's talking about illegals, you know, that are here. And and so it's just interesting how people sort of they sort of will create their own value system where it's like this has higher equity than this. Like it's more important to me that this man and his wife or this woman and her children are able to stay here even though they're illegal because they have a better quality of life. That's priority to me. Over in order to make that happen, this girl's gonna get raped, trafficked, and murdered because il for every one good person that comes through illegally, one bad person comes through illegally. Oh, it's a price we gotta pay. That's her mindset.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And I don't think that's I just don't I don't think that's a good mindset. And and then the moderation of knowing there's a difference. Okay, this is important. There's a difference between a refugee and an immigrant.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:A refugee is someone who's been displaced, but who really longs to go home.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I mean, I've got a lot of friends in Iceland that are refugees from Venezuela.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, let's talk about it.
SPEAKER_02:And from Iran.
SPEAKER_01:Let's talk about that.
SPEAKER_02:And they like I know of one family there that like if they they want to go back because all their family and stuff is there, but if they go back, they're literally like on a hunt list there. And so they're in Iceland now.
SPEAKER_01:But there's that's Iran or Venezuela?
SPEAKER_02:Venezuela. And so they I mean, we talked about a couple weeks ago, they were like celebrating.
SPEAKER_01:When when uh Maduro got taken out.
SPEAKER_02:But they they I think in 23 is when they first came over. And then you can stay in Iceland for a year and a half, up to a year and a half while they process your like status, if they'll let you stay or not. But they, I mean, they ended up getting improved at stay, but I mean, they still are like home. We're here, we're living in this one little bedroom apartment that the government in Iceland has put us in, but yeah, all their family and friends are back home and their whole lives are back home, and they just got up and left because they had to get out.
SPEAKER_01:How did do you know how they got out of there?
SPEAKER_02:No, I don't.
SPEAKER_01:What about you said there was some Iranians that were refugees?
SPEAKER_02:They were similar. Yeah, they were in country for like a year. And they also, same thing, if they were to go back, we're probably just gonna get killed. And they were trying to stay, and they got they didn't get approved to stay, and they moved them to France. Um, and I know I mean, I think they had some friends and stuff there, but yeah, just just tough.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, a refugee wants to go home.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And then an immigrant is someone who wants to move from one country, typically the place of their birth or their homeland, to another place because there's greater opportunity there. And I think I bring that up to say I think there's a lot of misunderstanding where where people tend to lump them all together. And uh and America has always been a country and continues to be that welcomes refugees through various programs.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Um so like there's there's a I have a friend that did that.
SPEAKER_02:They like um, she's from Nigeria. Her family's from Nigeria, but her family applied to some kind of program and the US picked her family. They moved to the U.S. for greater opportunity and stuff. And she moved when she was like, I want to say between five and seven, because she remembers it, and then grew up in the U.S., went to the College of Mizzou to play um soccer, and she lives in Iceland now. Like that's how we met. Um, but that's how her Wow. That's how she got to the U.S. was through some program that her family had applied for.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I don't have the numbers in front of me. I I'm not you could do the research probably and like see, okay, by year, how many refugees have been brought into America through programs. And what I think it would be good for people to understand is America has done as much or more for those countries that people need to be fleeing or where people have been displaced than most other countries. And I mean, I'm not saying America leads in that, but we're we're one of the leaders. Like we're you know, like the European Union countries have done it as well. You and then some of the things that as a country we can do, I think, are help people leave one country and displacement land in another country where there's some support. So like from I mentioned in the other episode, from Sudan to Uganda, and then there's UN and US and German, French, British support for those refugee camps in Uganda that house Sudanese people. But all that to say the Sudanese, which is Sudan is kind of like North Sudan. There's two Sudans. There's Sudan and South Sudan, which you know that. But South Sudan is sandwiched between Sudan and Uganda. Northern Uganda houses refugees from both countries, Sudan and South Sudan. And what Kilby and Greg will say is those people long to go home.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:They long to go back. That's a refugee. Whereas an immigrant says, I want to leave this country because there's better opportunities over this border or in this other place. And that's where, okay, if that's what you're looking to do, there are processes in both these cases where um where you can you can pursue a better life. So I think it's, you know, someone you had showed me a couple posts on social media where people were just making irrational statements.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And the important thing for us is to stay clear-headed, to not misappropriate or misapply scripture to something that is not intended to be applied to, and to make it say something it does not say.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And have some common sense.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I think that's why we also come to you guys, because that's what we want to do. We want to be faithful to scripture and not use it in the wrong context or way.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah. That's good. So that brings us up to this update, which is because you've had this experience of try I mean, soccer has afforded you the opportunity to see the world. Yeah. But then you've only you've played professionally. You played for for a refresher, if there's newer listeners. You were your senior year in high school, you were the Gatorade player of the year nationally. You then went to University of Tennessee, where you were a uh uh soccer player for all four years, but you redshirted in the middle to play in the World Cup, the under-20 World Cup for the U.S. team. Yeah. U.S. national under-20 team. Um, couple of all SEC um that's a really big award, you know, like you're accomplished. You then played, you started your pro career, unfortunately, when COVID hit.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So it was a w crazy time. You were out of soccer for a year. It almost it compromised your career path because you you fell kind of in the worst possible age bracket or classification. But the Lord got you back on path, and you played a year in Iceland, came back, played in the pros in America. Yep. That's where the whole story went down that we've covered here in a previous episode. Um it's also talked about in your book, and it's also in the upcoming No Sanity Stories book. There's a chapter that that where we tell your story and excited about that.
SPEAKER_02:But you know, it's funny about that episode. I still listen to it every winter when I come home, but mainly because I'm like every year that's gone by, I'm like so thankful for it because it's cool to look back and see like how the Lord used it and grew me and as time moves farther and farther away from it. And I'm like, man, God is was so faithful then.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's a good, it's a gift to have hindsight and know that the Lord looks forward with that same hindsight. His foreshadow his I mean his foresight is he understands and knows more than we do, even in our hindsight.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But our hindsight allows us to see a little bit into what he's doing sometimes. Not always, but usually. Yeah, it's pretty miraculous. So you you played in the States. That was such a difficult season, so you're like, I'm I'm gonna go back to Europe.
SPEAKER_02:I'm out of here. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So we're back to Europe, been playing over there for a few years, changing clubs this year. It came down to several European clubs and a almost a potential move back to America to play for an American club in the pro ranks here. But as it stands, by the time this episode drops, you will be in what country?
SPEAKER_03:Portugal.
SPEAKER_01:Portugal. You're playing back in Europe and um playing for a club there. And that's that's pretty sweet. I've always thought it'd be a cool country to spend some time in.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm excited. It should be warmer than Iceland. Uh definitely be warm. It'll be a lot warmer than Iceland. Um it'll be I'm excited to like play on grass again. I haven't done that in a while. I mean, I haven't done that since I was in LA three years ago.
SPEAKER_01:And play on grass in warm sunny weather.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's gonna be great.
SPEAKER_01:Because in Iceland, you're playing on turf. A lot of times you're playing, you played a lot of games indoors up there. It's that one there was one game I watched that was inside, wasn't it?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, there's uh the place out east that we played in has an indoor, and then the place up north has an indoor.
SPEAKER_01:The one up north is the one I think I saw. And then, but even when you're playing outside in Iceland, it's on turf and it's cold.
SPEAKER_02:It's terrible. You literally can't feel your feet because our boots aren't warm at all.
SPEAKER_01:That's cleats.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, those are cleats. But they're my work boots. Um cleats. Yeah, it's game cleats. It's so cold. Like we were talking about wearing leggings and stuff today because it's so cold here. And I mean, I'll do that for training and stuff, but in games, you can wear like an underarmor under your jersey, but that's it. So your legs are just totally exposed. Yeah. And it's so cold. So I'm really looking forward to not playing in blizzards, 60 mile an hour winds, snow. The last like couple years, my first game of the season, it snowed during it. Like two years ago, it dumped snow where we had a couple inches the first game of the year.
SPEAKER_01:It's fun to play in the snow when you're sledding and building igloos and snowmen and when you're just warm and all bundled up and go in and sit by the fire and heat up and get some coffee and but not when you're playing soccer.
SPEAKER_02:No.
SPEAKER_01:Um the weather right now, I mean, all across the south is like bitter cold.
SPEAKER_03:Brutal cold.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, people up north will say, ah, it's not that it's not cold. Everything's relative. When it's, you know, our average temperature this time of year is lows in the high 20s, highs in the high forties, and now it's highs in the teens and low 20s, and lows down close to zero. It's just a big shift for us. Um we're just not set up for that. Pipes freeze and life is just brutal. But when I'm out there today, I mean it's 10 degrees or whatever with the wind changing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. No.
SPEAKER_01:And you will go to Portugal. I wonder what the temperature. What is the weather there right now?
SPEAKER_02:Um, I just looked it up with Nikki home. Let me look. I do know it's gonna be rainy, so but that's like I said when it's not rainy. Yeah, let me look. I'll give it.
SPEAKER_01:Like, what's today? Are you looking on the weather app, see what it is today there?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it says it's fifty-six there. It's looking like the next 10 days, the highs are in uh like right at 60.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah. The lows are winter time.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's winter time, and the lows are high 40s, low 50s.
SPEAKER_01:So a 40 degree swing, 40 degrees different from what you're dealing with here. Especially leaving these from Iceland.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, especially leaving with these single digits.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And then the flip side of that compared to Iceland is uh like you're gonna be playing in in March and April over there, it's probably gonna be 70 degrees.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's gonna be nice. And in May.
SPEAKER_01:And in Iceland, what is it that time of year?
SPEAKER_02:Uh I don't know. I mean it'll it'll it'll snow until the end of April there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so big difference.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, huge difference.
SPEAKER_01:Heck yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But my coach is Icelandic, so that'd be cool. A little connection there. Yep. He was the guy that I was supposed to play for last year, but didn't go to.
SPEAKER_01:And then he left, he dipped and went to Portugal.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. He dipped.
SPEAKER_01:Um You're practically European.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I mean, I still when we like when we talk, I don't know if you've caught it, but I have a habit of saying yow okay, and that's such an Icelandic phrase to say, and I still say it all the time.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I've noticed there's there's words that you even say in English that most people here don't use, but I think it's what second language English speakers might use. Like you only refer to pictures as photos. Like you wouldn't even pick up on it. Yeah, I didn't even know. And it's not right or wrong. It's not like annoying or anything like that. I just noticed it. I'm like, I've never said photo in my life.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like, oh, wait a minute. I think that's probably now I might be that might be because your generation uses the word photos on your phone. But I just noticed you started saying that.
SPEAKER_02:Interesting. If you guys have an opinion on that, feel free to tell them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Photos. Don't matter. It's just like I was trying to think with uh with smartphones with cameras on them. I remember when people started, this was before you would remember, but people started referring to pictures as pics. P I C, you know? Send pic, send pics, post pics. And then now it seems like people use the word photo. Um so I don't know if that's European or if it's just from media and the way phone city. I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, there are there are uh I mean the obvious ones like even in America, you refer to soccer as soccer, football as soccer, but everyone overseas r refers to it as football.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And I even when I come home now, I'll still call it football. Yeah. But it's because you guys know now when I'm what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_01:I know what you mean. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But if yeah, if I'm talking to somebody that they just have context in America, then I'll I'll say soccer, but well, it makes sense.
SPEAKER_01:You play it with your feet. The whole game is played with your feet.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:It makes sense to be a few years.
SPEAKER_02:Naturally, it should be called football. Yes.
SPEAKER_01:So it is funny that American football is called football. You see the Nate Bargatzzi bit, George Washington, one of the George Washington.
SPEAKER_02:Where he's on the boat.
SPEAKER_01:He's talking about football. Is this a game you play with your feet? No. You don't kick the ball. Well, sometimes you kick it. And he has I don't remember if the guy asks him about how what do you get for kicking, and he's like, Sometimes you get one point, sometimes you get three.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So funny explaining American football to somebody.
SPEAKER_02:Because he makes perfect sense when he is explaining it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. You're like, oh yeah, this is what it sounds like to a European.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Or an African or an Asian, anybody in the world. I will say there's a big American football culture in Germany.
SPEAKER_02:In Germany. Yeah. But they they'll refer to it, they call it football and then American football. American football. Yeah. So that's what I say. I'll say, okay, football and American football.
SPEAKER_01:That's what I say when I'm anywhere overseas. I refer to American football. Yeah, Tuck played with several Germans, a couple of Brits, um, a French Canadian, a Russian who had grown up in Germany. And so there is a big, a big push. And I mean, one of Tuck's classmates, teammates that he graduated with went to Michigan.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I remember him.
SPEAKER_01:Marlon Klein, he's a tight end, and now he's going into the draft. He's gonna forego his senior season. He's gonna hit the NFL draft this spring. He's German. Yeah. He's tied in, has a national championship ring from his time at Michigan. Pretty cool. Um Yeah, it'll be fun though. Portugal, Kilby spent the whole summer between sophomore and junior year in Portugal or either between her freshman, sophomore year, or sophomore junior. I don't remember. Might have been going into her sophomore year. Matter of fact, I think it was going into her sophomore year. And uh she loved it. It's like a little bakery she would go to, her and her roommate every day. They were working with for a missionary there.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I don't know if I can go to a bakery every day. Gotta stay free.
SPEAKER_01:You'd be running it off.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Carbload a little bit.
SPEAKER_01:I think they would go every morning for the like get a croissant and a coffee, and that was their breakfast.
SPEAKER_02:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01:It'd be pretty fun.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Find somewhere, somewhere local to go.
SPEAKER_01:How close are you gonna be to the Mediterranean?
SPEAKER_02:Um, I mean, I'm right on this it'll be right on the south coast.
SPEAKER_01:So close.
SPEAKER_02:Like it's a port, like a little port city down there.
SPEAKER_01:What's the city called?
SPEAKER_02:Algarve.
SPEAKER_01:Algarve. It's exciting, man.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, the big the big stadium they play their games in are right there on the coast.
SPEAKER_01:And switching from the Icelandic season to the the European mainland season, what that does is if I understand Iceland season has to run through the warmer months. So it goes like February or March through October. Where the rest of the world, it follows basically the school year schedule. Is that right?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, the Scandinavian countries and the NWSL, the league that I was in in the US, I don't know why they do it, but they all run during the summer.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:And then everywhere else, all of Europe, the other league in the US.
SPEAKER_01:What's that league called?
SPEAKER_02:Game Bridge Super League or USL Super League.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:They run during the school year.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:So I've, you know, for the last couple years, I've I've been trying to leave Iceland and just like hope for an opportunity to go somewhere. But when by the time I end Iceland, I come home in October. Well, the window doesn't open up until January.
SPEAKER_01:Because you're if you're gonna leave Iceland, you're kind of stuck on a hamster wheel. If you're gonna leave Iceland, you would have to be entering into the midseason of any other league. Yes, and it's and they have a window in the midseason where you can do that, but it's just far fewer opportunities.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, like I got this opportunity because that girl broke her foot. They need someone to fill her spot.
SPEAKER_01:You're going to Portugal because a girl got hurt and they need a they've got a roster spot.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, and they need someone in her position.
SPEAKER_01:But that'll be a short you're only gonna be there for the second half of their season, not even, because their season second half's already started. They've already played a couple matches. Yeah. And then you'll come home in May, and that's where you'll negotiate. You'll start talking with coaches, clubs, your agent, and figure out, okay, where am I gonna be next year? But you'll either be in Europe or America, Lord willing, after summer. That that'll start like July, August, and then you'll play, you'll get on that schedule where you can spend instead of spending winters here, you'll spend summers here.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, like say, like a part of this kind of process the last month was I was talking to that US team, you know. And that league, I know they do get a month off in the winter time. So that would be nice, you know, come home for you know, half of December, half of January, and then you go back. But yeah, I'll I'll get half of May back here, I think all of June. And then wherever I end up, whether it's here in America, Spain, France, like anywhere in Europe, I would probably go back in July. So I'm gonna start about that because I'll get to, you know, be here for summer camp for a little while and help out with that, get my workouts in, yeah. Have some some hot months here instead of cold.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01:You got introduced to high country mountain hunting this year.
SPEAKER_02:I did. It was fun. Wanna give it a go next year.
SPEAKER_01:It's different. It's different than going to South Georgia and sitting on the side of in in a shooting house on the side of a cut over a food plot. So a far different I mean, it's almost like a different sport or pursuit altogether.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but you've been the one teaching me, so I'm like kind of love it and want to give it a go next year.
SPEAKER_01:And you took what we've studied and learned and you went and hunted a piece of property in Virginia this year and killed two big old bucks.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I was proud of that because I mean, we've been looking at that property for what, two years?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I've never been to it, but we've done the we've studied it through my OneX app.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's where I killed my first buck, which just pure luck on that one a couple years ago. And I've been trying for a while on that property. And yeah, we looked a lot last year, and then I knew exactly where I was going as soon as I got on that property this year. And sure enough, 20 minutes in, so cool, got that first buck.
SPEAKER_01:We had the uh Onex app pulled up, dropping pins and looking at terrain features, and you went in there and and that second buck you killed was very nice. They're both nice, but kill one the first morning, uh first evening, and kill one the next morning.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And you're all done. That's awesome.
SPEAKER_02:I was pretty excited. FaceTime you after just jumping around in my tree stands.
SPEAKER_01:It was wild.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That was wild. I love the fall. So you'll get a little time, but also uh depends on where you end up. If you're if you're playing in the U.S. next next fall, this fall, fall 26th, you'll get a month off from wherever you're at um to come here. And but then also wherever you land, you'll find some local hunting where on your day off or mornings or afternoons or something, you can hunt locally.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah. If I'm in the U.S., I'm gonna find something. No, if I'm in Europe, I'm just gonna be a little sad that I miss out until the winter.
SPEAKER_01:Tough to be European, man. Thankfully.
SPEAKER_02:They live more boring lives than the people in the mountains.
SPEAKER_01:They do.
SPEAKER_02:But it's worth it for now though.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Keep on.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Well, we'll we will post as this. Do you wanna what is the best way people could follow you? Obviously, social media. People people do follow you that social media platform, uh, like Instagram, is that probably the main one?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Katie Cousins. Is it Katie Cousins or Catherine Yeah, it'll it'll come up.
SPEAKER_02:Katie Cousins or something. It's Katie Cousins.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And then um you put an app on my phone for me and little to watch.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. It's called Fot Mob F O T M O B.
SPEAKER_01:F-O-T-M-O-B.
SPEAKER_02:And then they can follow your club, which is called D A M A I E N S E. Dum Dum Damayense.
SPEAKER_01:Damayense.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Good enough. Well well, once we've got it, we'll link it so folks can we'll have a follow-up where people can follow you. Um, yeah. All right. We're gonna be cheering you on. They need a mascot. The Grizzly Bears.
SPEAKER_02:Been over this. They don't have mascots. Hey, but if I play in the US next year, they'll have a mascot.
SPEAKER_01:Heck yeah. Get me a hat.
SPEAKER_02:You're not gonna wear that.
SPEAKER_01:All right.
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