No Sanity Required
No Sanity Required is a weekly podcast hosted by Brody Holloway and Snowbird Outfitters. Each week, we engage culture and personal stories with a Gospel-driven perspective. Our mission is to equip the Church to pierce the darkness with the light of Christ by sharing the vision, ideas, and passions God has used to carry us through 26 years of student ministry. Find more content at swoutfitters.com.
No Sanity Required
How Small Traditions Shape A Grateful Heart
Brody pauses before the holiday rush to look at the small, steady habits that actually shape a grateful life. He shares childhood holiday memories and the new traditions he and Little are building with their family. He also highlights recent guests, gives Snowbird updates, and previews our upcoming interview with Abby West, a Las Vegas CSI agent whose faith and fieldwork offer remarkable insight.
Whether your season looks familiar or completely different this year, simple traditions still matter—a verse, a prayer, a weekly meal—small rhythms that anchor busy lives and point us back to God’s new mercies each morning.
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I love doing those interviews, I love the most interesting stories, which is awesome. Um being encouraged this week that we celebrate things to Americans in such an awesome and uh thing. So I want to do some of these also encourages you to reflect on and think about the goodness of the world and maybe creating those movements for those of us that are owned children, young children, and also for those of us that are young. Um thinking about living as a person who's goodness of the world. The responses and also some things that I'm thankful for, and hopefully helping you start to think about the goodness of the world as this week we can appeal as a nation and as a society and a culture and celebrate God's goodness. So, anyway, kind of a Thanksgiving episode. I know we're releasing it a little bit early. Uh Thanksgiving's later this week, but I hope it'll be something that'll give you some opportunity to pause and reflect on the goodness of the Lord. So, welcome to No Sanity Required.
SPEAKER_00:Welcome to No Sanity Required from the Ministry of Snowbird Wilderness Outfitters, a podcast about the Bible, culture, and stories from around the globe.
SPEAKER_02:Before I get into some of my most fond memories of growing up, I wanted to just say thank you to all these guests that have come on NSR in the last few months. Going back to summertime, man, we've had an amazing lineup, and the feedback that I've gotten has told me that y'all feel the same way as our listeners and supporters. The No Sanity Stories, that's a segment in this podcast that people really tend to be encouraged by and challenged by. These most recent episodes with Gwen have been incredible. Clay and Brenda Hicks before that. Um Tully and Tuttle. Uh, great feedback on that one. Um also the couple that uh I can't remember now their pseudonyms because I just know them by their real names. What did we call them? We called them Lewis and Emily. Oh, yeah, Emily, because that's her pen name. But Lewis and Emily and their story, um, man, it was powerful. And what y'all have told us is that all of these guests have been an encouragement, and those stories have been an encouragement to y'all. I'm excited about one particular. Now, y'all listen, y'all are gonna love this uh before I get in today's uh content. I've there there's a a lady, a young lady, a young woman. Her name is Abby. Abby West. Abby West is uh, I love Abby West so much. She her dad is one of my close, close friends in the world. And I've known Abby literally since she was a toddler. Not since she was born. Her dad and I became friends about 20, well, 23 years ago, maybe 23, 24 years ago. And at that time, I think Abby was two or three maybe two years old. And she's she's about a year older than my oldest daughter, Kilby. And so they, you know, we we've our families grew up together. Um they they live in another state, and we would go visit them. In fact, Abby's dad, Steve Finn, was on NSR several years ago in one of our early seasons, and we'll have him back on at some point. He's the executive director of Chestnut Mountain Ranch in West Virginia. But anyway, Abby served on staff at SWO. She was uh she started off on Element. Back then it was called Servant Team. It's our high school leadership discipleship team. Um and then from there she served, I think, three summers on top of that. I know she had three summers, but I don't remember if it was like element and then three summers. She spent three or four summers with us. The only summer she missed during her undergrad was the summer she interned with an Atlanta area law enforcement agency, I believe it was in Gwinnett County. And Abby is a crime scene investigator. She's a real life CSI, and she is a CSI for the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department. And so Abby can tell it's crazy. You know, one of the things people loved the Clay Hicks interview, because Clay's such a smooth talker, like not smooth talker, that's a negative connotation. He just got he's easy to listen to, that's what I'm trying to say. And man, he tells us crazy cool stories and you know, just a lifetime, a career in law enforcement at that level. Very interesting. But Abby is a crime scene investigator uh for the law, Las Vegas Police Department, and she can tell some crazy stories. Now, I mean crazy, not just stories of crimes being committed or um, you know, true crime stuff, but like some wild stories, a few things that have happened where my jaw just drops. And um Abby loves the Lord, and her husband, Judah, is a uh is a police officer with Las Vegas Police Department, so they're a law enforcement family. I'm excited. Abby has agreed to come on. She's she's excited, I think. Um I was I spent the last week, uh last week, the week before Thanksgiving week, Abby's dad and I were hunting uh out west, and we spent about four days together. And I said, Man, you think Abby had come on NSR? He said, I think she'd love to. So we called her, I called her and asked her, and she said, Oh, I'd be honored. And so uh that's gonna be cool. Um I think what we'll do is we'll have her come on, talk about her childhood coming to SWO, growing up, coming to SWO with her parents when they were bringing groups and then um and then working here and just what this ministry has meant to her. She'll be a no-sanity story, and then uh and then we'll I think we'll do that uh that's gonna be first of the year. We'll probably do that by just we'll zoom, we'll do a zoom call. But then later, Lord willing, later in 2026, we're gonna fly Abby and Judah over, get them here for a conference so they can spend some time at SWO. They haven't been here a couple years, and we'll do we'll do a couple more sit-down episodes. So I'm excited about that. That's the one that's the one uh teaser I wanted to give you. Looking forward to it. Katie Cousins is back in country. Her soccer season in Europe has ended. She's back home after a pit stop with Kilby and Greg in Uganda. Um and so good to have her back. I'm sure we'll get her on and get an update at some point over the next month or so. And then we got winter swow coming up after Christmas. We're in we're in that sort of like a lull of ministry where we don't really have we don't have any groups here during November and December. We do in December, but it's like December 27th, and we consider that the new year. So our ministry year, we start the 26th ministry year on December 27th of 25, if that makes sense. So that's when we run winter swow one. The first event of our ministry year is winter swap. Um, so winter swow one is December 27th, winter swow two follows that. So over that Christmas to New Year break, we'll run two winter swow conferences, and those those are usually pretty full. Those first two winter swow conferences, I think we've got about 700 folks coming in. So that's gonna be awesome. Uh good time. We'll have a lot of staff come back to help. Uh, we do have in in December, we have our our annual staff Christmas party. So we'll have a lot of a lot of snowbird alum will come in for that. But first ministry event will be winter swos one and two back to back. About 700 students come in for that. And then we'll be rolling. We'll do several winter swow events through the month of January and February, months of January and February. And then we'll also have our college uh event, which is coming up in that's in January. That that college event, the our college retreat is January 9 through 11. And that thing's slamful. I think we've got right now with our people, our college students that serve at SWO, um, all total plus registered guests, we're around 500 people right now. And that sounds depending, you know, everything's relative. To some people, that would seem like a huge conference. To some people, it would seem really small. Like if you go to uh what's the big one in Atlanta? I don't know why I'm drawing a blind. Passion. If you go to Passion in Atlanta, you know, I think it's 20 or 30,000 people, something like that. So ours is tiny compared to that. And part of why we started doing this event is because that event had grown so large, and a lot of people felt like it had lost a little bit of it just had it it kind of changed identities, rightfully. So you can't run a 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 person event the same way you can run a 1,000-person event, you know, just in terms of intimacy and even the way you teach, is it's hard in those larger settings. So that was part of it. And and um, and then also we want to focus more on equipping so so the teaching emphasis and focus of our college event is very um, it's very deliberate. And it's not just sort of like a big hype event, um, just as far as it's not just big energy music, lights, let's go for it. It's like, yeah, let's open the word of God. Let's talk about how do we equip you to go into the academic world or a lot of folks that come to it are not even in college. They're young adults that have started their, you know, they're either in the workplace or they've started their career, whatever, but just targeting that age group. How do you, how do you um keep your eyes on Jesus and grow in your relationship with the Lord every day? Uh anyway, that that event's coming up this winter. Our pure and holy event, which is that's a student ministry event where we focus on sexuality, biblical sexuality. Um we focus on relationships. In the the past few years, we've spent a lot of time focusing on gender because it's been such a hot topic. That seems to be calming down a little bit. I think people are people are waking up, even non-Christians, and realizing the damage that is being done to young people through the gender revolution, you know, whatever you want to call it. I guess that's what you call it. Anyway, so anyway, just to update um, like some things to be looking forward to coming up. Excited about that. But today, what I want to do is I want to talk about Thanksgiving. I love Thanksgiving, probably, not probably, definitely, my favorite holiday of the year. Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday of the year. I'm gonna go ahead and say that. I think I've shared this before, but uh our our Thanksgiving tradition, we made a decision, and I I would encourage young parents to do this, young families to do this. We made a decision when we became parents uh in 2000. Said, let's, we actually did it in '99, I think, when Little was pregnant with our first child. Like, let's let's establish some holiday traditions that that we're just gonna establish, and everyone's gonna just know this what that's what we do. And a lot of that had to do with I I'd seen families stress and fret over, well, we'll go to this, these grandparents on this year and these grandparents on this year, or we'll rotate one year we'll go here to Thanksgiving and here to Christmas, and next year we'll go here to Thanksgiving and there to Christmas. And it can be stressful, you know. And I'm sure a lot of y'all feel that, and just decided we're gonna figure out what how how we want to do this for our kids, and we're gonna do it. We're gonna raise them doing the same thing every year, and that's what we've done. Um, Thanksgiving, we spend in middle Georgia. Y'all know my wife Little is from Georgia, and she has family in the middle part of the state. And uh, man, they they're some of my favorite human beings alive. The little's cousins and extended families, just the kindest, most generous, most loving people. They, I am just so thankful to be a part of that extended family. And so we go, and that's it, there's a shout-out, that crew. I think some of them listen in SR. That's David and Regina Williams and Patrick and Jenny Brantley, and and then Jason is their son, Jenny's brother. So his family, Jason and Mallory Williams. Jason is Jenny's brother, Jenny's family, um, and then David and Regina. Regina would be Little's cousin. And anyway, a lot of folks have gone to be with the Lord, grandparents on both sides, and that the the family dynamic has changed. And um, I don't know, I just love going down there. They they got a large acreage, large for our family, largest acreage of anybody in our extended family. They got several hundred acres and just ride four-wheelers and shoot guns and go squirrel hunting and go deer hunting, and every once in a while kill a hog, and but eat good and cowdy hunt at night and visit with family throughout. It's just awesome, man. Just love it. So that's our Thanksgiving um, what do you call it, tradition. And this year we'll go down uh tomorrow night to on Tuesday night. We'll go down Tuesday night, uh, which is gonna be after we got a high school basketball game. My my youngest daughter, Juju, has a basketball game, and then when we're done with that, we'll hit the road and drive down and drive, drive down and spend, literally spend the rest of that week. So that's gonna be awesome, or the rest of the week. That'll be that'll be a lot of fun. Christmas, our our uh tradition, we made a decision when so when I was growing up, both sets of grandparents lived, you know, in the same, we all live in the same area. And so on Christmas, we would just sleep at the house and then get up and we'd hit both sets of grandparents throughout the day and wake up at the house, open presents, you know, have Christmas morning there, and then ride over to my one grandparents and spend the middle part of the day, and then supper would be at the other grandparents. That's when I'm when I was when I was young. And then my nanny died when I was in the sixth grade. She was young, she's about the age I am now, and she died, she had breast cancer, and after that it changed to where then just went to my mom's parents' house on Christmas Day, and um that and I and so I looked back at that and I was like, you know, that was way less stressful, I think, as a kid. I loved going to both sets of grandparents because you got more presents. But uh anyway, once we switched to where we're just going to one set of grandparents, that seemed to be a little bit easier. So anyway, we decided we're gonna we're gonna sleep at home. I don't want to sleep. I want my kids to experience Christmas morning in our home. I want to have a fire going when they wake up. And and that has been awesome because by staying, by staying put on Christmas, we have the experience every few years to have a white Christmas. So I think last one was maybe 2020. Was it 2020, 2021? We had about six inches of snow that fell on Christmas Eve during our Christmas Eve service. Oh, that's another reason I love being home at Christmas. I'm getting ahead of myself. I'll I'll probably do another episode when it gets Christmas week. But we do a Christmas Eve service at Red Oak Church. That's my favorite church service of the entire year. It's literally my favorite church service of the entire year. We don't do anything else all year at Red Oak that I enjoy as much as the Christmas Eve service. It's just wonderful. Um and then, you know, go home and uh we watch the Nativity story on Christmas Eve after the service as a family, and then Christmas at the house. But what was I getting at? Um, oh we yeah, we get up uh and we wanted our kids to grow up having Christmas at home. So Thanksgiving, when I was growing up, um, we would we would go Thanksgiving morning, we would go every single year. Me and my dad and my brother would go squirrel hunting. The only hunting I did in my entire growing up life. I'm I love to hunt now. The Lord's given me incredible fortune to hunt waterfowl in several states and in Saskatchewan several times. Thanks to the generosity of others, I've gotten those awesome opportunities. I've been able to hunt elk out west, mule deer out west, I've been able to hunt whitetailed deer. I don't know how many states. I counted it up, like 14 states maybe. Um killed a pile of hogs here and there and yonder, and squirrels and rabbits, and you know, pheasant hunting in South Dakota with Muggs' family, and just man, I've I've I've loved hunting. But when I was growing up, I didn't hunt. Except on Thanksgiving Day that morning, me and my dad and my brother would go squirrel hunting. And I loved it. It was there was uh there was an older lady, elderly lady in our community, and her name was Miss Lola Lawless. That was her name, Lola Lawless. Don't old people have the best names, best names that you you hear in older people, and such a good name. I didn't appreciate it then, but now I think, man, what a great name. Lola Lawless. So Miss Lawless, um, she was a widow lady, and she had some some property. I don't think it was a lot of property. I think she probably lived on five or six acres. But it was uh, or maybe, maybe more than that, maybe, but no more than 20 acres. And in the community of Bethel, I don't think many people have more than 20 acres. It's all a little small. You know, it's a real crowded, it's a rural community, but it's very crowded. You drive through Bethel and the houses are, you know, you got a lot of houses sitting on an acre, a lot of houses sitting on two or three acres, but there's no big, there are very few vast tracts of land. And here was this little mountain, the side of a mountain. This lady let us go up there and squirrel hunt, and it was just a bunch of hardwoods. And I can't, I mean, we had a we had an exact pattern, and my brother Duke, he listens to this, he listens to NSR, and and uh so shout out to Duke. He's probably remembering the same thing right now as he's listening to this that I'm remembering, which is we would we'd get out of the truck and we would have our shotguns. We didn't hunt with 22s, which a lot of people say that that's cheating, but that's what we did. We had we only had three firearms in our home. One was it that it was two single-shot shotguns. A 28-gauge that Duke has, a 12-gauge that I have. The both of those have belonged to our Papa. Um, Papa, Pawpaw. It was funny. My dad's dad, some of the grandkids called him Papa, some called him Pawpaw. But anyway. Um, and then uh a little 22 rifle that uh I don't even know where that thing's at. Um I'd I'd like to have it. Uh or for my brother to have it. I don't maybe he does have it, I don't know. Anyway, our dad would carry that 22 once we got big enough to carry two shotguns. We were real little. Um my dad would carry that 12 gauge, I think. He'd carry one of the shotguns, and then me and my brother would carry, you know, our BB guns. But anyway, that was our one hunting trip of the year. We'd go on Thanksgiving morning, and we always killed a pile of squirrels, and then we'd take them and drop them off at this old lady's house that loved squirrel. She would eat squirrel because my mom wouldn't, she wouldn't prepare it. She didn't like it, she thought it was gross. She's like, hey man, we're rodents, them were rats. If you ever had squirrel dumplings, they're really good if they're done right with gravy. But we would uh we would hunt on Thanksgiving morning, then we'd get done hunting, we'd take on squirrels and drop them off, and then head to my grandparents' house, my mom's parents. It was awesome memories. And so um anyway, I had a good childhood. I'm thankful. I grew up on a just a rural dirt road there in that little community in Western North Carolina. There was basically surrounded by tomato farms and cow pastures. On one side, uh kind of up the hill, across the road from the house, it was uh cow pastures, and then behind the below, behind the house was the Pigeon River. Between our house and the Pigeon River was a, I don't know, 50 or 60 acre tomato farm. And this is a great, fun, fond memories of my childhood, you know, and um love the hot summer days, ride our bikes down there, jump the river. Sometimes we'd take inner tubes and float a section of it, and in the winter, when it would snow and we'd miss school, we'd go up across the road onto that, into that cow pasture and go sledding. There's a huge hill that was on the Reeves farm. It's called Triple R Farms. The Reeves Farm was the best spot for sledding. And uh this is great. Um, and then the the Pigeon River ran along the tomato farm. That was the Henson, that was Henson Farms, and we would we would take our bikes and ride up the up the river with inner tubes, just old, you know, tractor tire inner tubes and float down the river. A lot of times our dad would go with us on that. Uh my parents were still married. They were together then. That was cool. Um but they used that river for irrigating those tomato fields, you know, just pulling water out of the river to irrigate the tomato fields. It was fun. Probably the thing we played the most, whether it was summer, fall, or Thanksgiving Day, we would play war. We called it playing war. War games with toy pistols and rifles. We would get in the woods around my grandparents' house and we just play war. We'd we'd shoot it out. We'd play shoot it out. Uh shoot them up. And then we'd, of course, play football out in the in the yard. And uh it was great. Growing up in a rural setting, one thing you learn how to do is appreciate simple things, I think, at a young age. You learn how to work hard. Um, I remember jobs that I hated as a kid. To this day, I just hate thinking about it. Anyway, I told you this is a very laid-back episode. And uh, but yeah, anyway, selling nightcrawlers. How funny is that? They pack those things up and sell them to sell them at a bait, sell them as bait to convenience stores and stuff like that. I go on with stories of my childhood, but the point I'll make is man, make make your make your memories. Um uh think of think of think outside of the box, but think simple. Man, you don't have to come up with big elaborate schemes for what traditions you're gonna make, you know. Just I I I shared all that because I think a lot of y'all will identify with it. My memories of my childhood are so simple. And man, I I feel like we've we've come to a time where everything costs money. Like, I know a lot of people, all their memories cost money, you know. Like, man, I have the best memories of going to going on a cruise every year. I'm sure those are great memories, no doubt. And I would never begrudge that. I have great memories of we go to, you know, such and such every year and stay in this hotel or this, we rent a house at the beach, and I have some of those memories too, and that's fun, and we've done that as a family. The point I wanted to get at is what are the simple things in life? Thanksgiving should be a time where we think, what are the simplest things I could be thankful for? And what can I reflect on in this season? And what memories are we creating as a family or as a young married couple or as young parents, are you are you establishing those patterns? And let me just tell you to think inside the box sometimes. And sometimes think outside of the box, but sometimes just think simple. Like let's make sure that we're I guess if if there's a a theme or a message for this Thanksgiving episode, it's come up with daily comma. If you're if you're if I'm punctuating this sentence, come up with daily, comma, weekly, comma, monthly, comma, maybe quarterly, and annual, annually. Come up with with uh traditions, you know. And the reason I said daily, pause there, is maybe that's something that you're establishing that every morning, you know. I we we read a little devotion every morning, and there's been times where I think there's a pressure to uh are we really doing a good devotion? It don't matter, man. Read I'm reading a verse of scripture and a devotional thought and praying, and then everybody's out the door. Well, it's not that elaborate, and I don't know how much you're listening to it most mornings, the the couple kids that are still at home, but it doesn't matter, you know, be faithful to be consistent with those types of things. And then, but then there's those, you know, weekly, we have weekly traditions, you know. We do a Sunday morning brunch every Sunday after whatever retreat event we've got going on at SWO when that's over Sunday morning ahead of the house. We all have a big breakfast, brunch kind of thing. That's a weekly tradition. It doesn't happen every single week, but most weeks it's it's happening. And so that kind of thing, you know. What is what is your what is your do you do uh uh some some traditions every year, you know, and for me it's we we decided that was going to be Thanksgiving and Christmas. And uh we established when Kilbytuck and Laley were growing up, we would go to Honduras every year. Every December, a group of snowbird folks would go to Honduras and we'd work in in a children's home down there, a big orphanage called Orphanage Emanuel, which a lot of y'all are probably familiar with. I think we did 20 trips down there. That was a long run. And uh that was a cool memory for them, you know, to think back on. But just just reflect on the goodness of the Lord and ask, how can I do this better? How can we be more consistent? And maybe, listen, don't don't take what I'm saying as some sort of gospel message of this is how you got to do life. Maybe your family is so blended that that that that these types of things aren't aren't practical. Or maybe, you know, I was thinking of uh a friend of mine the other day where uh they just had a couple of kids, and those kids are now grown, and there's no grandparents living, the kids aren't married, but they've gone and one one one child is married and is working far from home, and the other one lives far from home. And I don't know, they're for them, it just life looks a little different. And so I don't want to say you got to do it this way, you know, or or it's or you're not being you're not being faithful. Or, you know, a lot of young couples that want so badly to have a child, and and for whatever reason the Lord hasn't opened the womb, and it's like, man, what are we gonna do? How are we gonna establish those holiday you know rituals and and it doesn't matter? It doesn't matter, man. What matters is spending uh appreciating and enjoying the good life God's given us. I love that part of the Ecclesiastes where the writer says, and I'm I'm paraphrasing, but he's like, man, life is rough and it's stressful, and everything is just futil futility. It's there's futility and vanity and everything. And man, you're trying to figure out how to get through this world and for the for the good to be more impactful than the bad. And he said, Man, here's what I've learned. Hit pause, enjoy a good meal. So maybe you're a young couple and you don't have strong, you don't have relationships within your extended family and you don't have kids yet, then pause and enjoy a meal together, you know? Watch the sun come up or go down and just reflect on God's goodness and spend time with the Lord and in his word. Um I think it'll be I think it'll be awesome to to start to create some of those patterns and and for those of you that are parents of of kids that are still at home, establish those those traditions. I think that man, I can't say enough about that. Anyway, I don't know if this was enjoyable. I just get a lot of feedback. People, a lot, for for whatever reason, a lot of our listeners say they really enjoy these more laid-back driving down the road, sitting in the truck kind of episodes. And today uh I I'm not driving, I'm just sitting, but I enjoy doing these. I'm just recording this on my phone. And uh, so maybe the sound quality ain't the best, but um, yeah, there's that thought. Hey, I want to close by just sharing a few verses to to think about. The the scripture says that uh, you know, God inhabits the praise of his people. And there's a there's a throughout the word of God, there's a biblical principle that when we are people of of thanksgiving, when we are thankful that the Lord uh honors and blesses that, and that he's blessed by that. I think that's important to recognize that the Lord is blessed by our thankfulness. And see this in Philippians where Paul talks a lot about rejoicing, you know, rejoice, rejoice, rejoice, and and everything give thanks. But I I always When I think of Thanksgiving, the thing I'm most thankful for is the consistency of the Lord's mercy. That Lamentations 3, 21 and 22, the steadfast love of the Lord endures forever. Um, steadfast love of the Lord endures forever. His mercies are new every morning. Great is his faithfulness. I don't think I quoted all that just right, but that you maybe you're familiar with that verse, that that those couple of verses. Just that the Lord is faithful and he's steadfast. So he's consistent. When I think of the Lord's steadfastness, I think of his um he doesn't quit, he doesn't turn back, he doesn't let go, but also his persistence in extending grace to us and persistence in extending mercy to us, um showering us with his kindness over and over. And um, yeah, so that it's just there's just a uh there's a non-stop outpouring of God's goodness to us. We'd be thankful for that. Um so steadfast love of the Lord endures forever. When I think of that steadfast love, that's what I think of. I think that he doesn't quit. I think that he's consistent, I think that he's intentional, that he's determined. And when God is determined to do something, you better believe it's gonna happen. So um grateful, grateful for that aspect of um of the love of the Lord and the mercy of the Lord. It's worth giving thanks over. So, update for my family is um, well, that's that's really all I had to share for today. And so just hope and pray that you guys have an awesome Thanksgiving and that the Lord will bless your time with family or friends, wherever you are, whatever you're doing. Um so just know that we're at Snowbird, we're we covered your prayers and we're grateful for your partnership and for those of you that listen to this every week. It means a lot to us. And just pray in God's richest, fullest blessings on y'all this week as we give thanks to the Lord for his goodness and and for his grace and for who he is. I like to say, you know, I like to encourage our folks, let's thank and praise the Lord for who he is and for what he's done. Who he is and what he's done. Those two things. Praise the Lord for who he is, praise the Lord for what he's done. And uh we can do we can all do that. Happy Thanksgiving, everybody, and uh, we'll talk to you soon.
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