No Sanity Required
No Sanity Required is a weekly podcast hosted by Brody Holloway and Snowbird Outfitters. Each week, we engage culture and personal stories with a Gospel-driven perspective. Our mission is to equip the Church to pierce the darkness with the light of Christ by sharing the vision, ideas, and passions God has used to carry us through 26 years of student ministry. Find more content at swoutfitters.com.
No Sanity Required
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In this special episode of No Sanity Required, Brody shares powerful listener stories from across the country—testimonies of lives changed, marriages formed, and families coming to Christ through the ministry. These heartfelt comments reveal how God is using the podcast to impact people far beyond Snowbird. Brody also gives a sneak peek at what’s ahead, including a two-part interview with a former Mormon, conversations on cults vs. Christianity, and upcoming guests like a former FBI agent and LMNT program leaders. Don’t miss this encouraging and honest look at how God is working through No Sanity Required.
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Hey, this episode is going to be a little bit different. I want to welcome everybody to no Sanity Required, but what we're going to do is just read some comments from recent episodes and then some more general comments about the podcast. Then I'm going to go over some upcoming topics and themes and guests and interviews, things like that, just to give you kind of an idea of where we're going over the next few months, give you something to look forward to and then to welcome your feedback. This will be a little bit shorter than normal episode because later this week we've got some longer form stuff coming out. Let me just welcome you to no Sanity Required and then we'll get into today's episode.
Speaker 2:Welcome to no Sanity Required from the Ministry of Snowbird Wilderness Outfitters. A podcast about the Bible, culture and stories from around the globe.
Speaker 1:JB and I sat down a few days ago with a guy that worked at Snowbird for years. His name's Josh Haskell and Josh Haskell. His background was that he grew up Mormon and I know a lot of us have a lot of misconceptions about the Mormon church and I will say I've had a little bit of interaction with Mormons and we're going to be talking about their doctrine and their beliefs and, uh, in the the two episodes, one will get more into what they believe and the other will get more into Josh's specific story and it was we videoed it. So it'll be a video episode and I'm looking forward for you, uh, for y'all, to hear that but and see it, because it was fascinating to me. I've known Josh for 15 years now longer than that, I guess, maybe like 17 years years now longer than that, I guess maybe like 17 years and I and I've known his story and we've had a lot of conversation about it, but this is the first time I ever sat down with him and just said, all right, man, let's, let's just walk through this. So we really get into the doctrine of the Mormon church and I learned a lot. At the very end, I asked him to give me a definition of a cult.
Speaker 1:What is a cult? Because sometimes people will joke about snowbird being a cult, and I don't like that. I like, I'm, I'm fine with with humor. That's a little bit sarcastic, you know, but that's such a serious thing. Because someone who like a cult is heretical. So anything that deviates from the true gospel or that adds something to it. You know, paul tells the Galatians if anybody changes or adds to the gospel, preach. He says, if anyone preaches any other gospel than the gospel of scripture, that that person is to be accursed, and the word is anathema in the Greek, which means condemned to hell. This is where the idea of where what happens to heretics, this is where that idea comes from. A heretic is someone that rejects core Christian doctrine, specifically something like the deity of Christ or the work of Jesus, rejects God's revelation to us or changes it. So the Bible's got harsh words for somebody that falls into that category. And so I'm, um. By the way, I'm I'm recording alone with no headset this morning, so I hope I'm the right distance from the microphone. I have no way of knowing. Hopefully this will all pick up, um, but there's a little disclaimer. But the reason I don't like to, to even joke about, you know cultish things is because of the, the gravity of what we're saying, what that means.
Speaker 1:A cult is a group of people, or a cult leader would be someone who teaches a false gospel or a false religion or religious system, and specifically as it relates to the person and work of Jesus, and then one you know some characteristics of cults. One characteristic of a cult would be a charismatic leader that you know that abuses his position of influence or power. Typically that's going to have to do with power, money, sexual relationships almost all cults I'm sure there's exceptions to this. I can't think of any. Every cult that I know of there's sexual perversion or deviance. So that's typically something you think about.
Speaker 1:Like David Koresh at Waco, he was a cult leader of the latter part of the last century and when you read about what went on behind the walls of that compound in Waco, the Branch Davidian compound, there was sexual perversion. He experienced polygamy or he had the women there had to be his sexual partners, that's always a part of it. Had to be his sexual partners, that's always a part of it. One characteristic of cults that Josh points out in the interview that you'll hear later this week is you're not allowed to leave Once you're in, you can't just walk away. So, anyway, that's why I never joke about cult stuff, and so we'll get into that. We'll get into what a cult is, and it's a fascinating episode. Two episodes.
Speaker 1:We'll break it into two because it was almost two hours of interview and we don't typically do episodes that long. But anyway, we'll get that out later this week and I know you'll learn a lot I did. We talked about the.
Speaker 1:Mormon view of heaven, the Mormon view. They believe so. Mormons believe that before we were on the earth we preexisted, so we were like Jesus. He's just one of us, we all preexisted. Then you come to earth to get your body and then after that you go into one of the heavens and then there's different progressions and it was very different than the Christian gospel.
Speaker 1:I think there's one, one real famous guy I think it's a news commentator like a Glenn Beck maybe that was. That was Mormon Um, who was. I don't know if he's still like a talk show person, but I know he was real popular a few years ago and I remember a lot of Christians just wrestling with man. This guy says the same things we say and one thing I know to be true is that people that preach or teach false religions, a lot of times they run real close to Christianity and that's kind of the way Satan typically worked.
Speaker 1:Now you do have far-fetched religions that are, I mean, couldn't be farther from Christianity. You know, like if you study Buddhism or Hinduism, so far from what we believe. But Islam, you know, in Islam they hold to a lot of the old Testament, history and teaching of the Bible, and then they, you know, they, they value Jesus as a prophet like Muhammad, and so it just muddies and makes the water real murky and also makes it mulky, which is another word that we use around here Um, but it just kind of clouds things, you know. And so the the beauty of the gospels? It's very, it's very simple, it's very articulated in Scripture. We don't have to.
Speaker 1:I mean, the gospel is so clear through the Scripture and if you hold a high view of the Scripture, then you've got a clear view of the gospel. What the Mormon church has done is they've added to the scripture by creating their own holy writing. I think that's another characteristic of a lot of cults is that they'll have their own additions to scripture, subtractions from scripture. One thing that might be an interesting conversation to have would be what's the difference between a cult and a different religion, difference between a cult and like a different religion? So when we use the word cult, um, as a as I'll say this as a christian, I would drop a lot of pagan religions in the same category, I would drop cults, you know, like islam and the muslim faith.
Speaker 1:It is the biggest cult in history because of what they teach and you're not allowed to leave it, and and what their founding fathers taught, their main founding father, muhammad, what he taught.
Speaker 1:So it is a cult. But then there's kind of this different category of religions versus cults. The main differences would be a religion is typically going to be something that is it's public and it's belief system so anybody can study it or learn about it, know about it. Typically they're they're culturally integrated thing called freedom of religion and typically what is recognized as a religion is going to be mainstream and people are going to be able to study it. There's going to be a set of doctrines, which is beliefs that are adhered to but that are public.
Speaker 1:In the Christian doctrine we believe that one example would be we believe that God became man in the person of Jesus, that Jesus is the second person of the Trinity. We believe in a triune God, a Trinitarian God, that our God is three in one Father, son, holy Spirit and that the second person, or the second member of the Trinity, came to earth. Philippians 2 says says Jesus did not consider equality with God a thing to be grasped, but he made himself of no reputation, he humbled himself and became obedient, even to go to the cross and die. So Jesus came to earth as a man that is at the core doctrine of the Christian faith. There was a heretic named Rob Bell some years ago. That was a leading quote-unquote Christian voice who began to sort of tamper with Christian doctrine, and we talked about him recently in the Penal Substitutionary Atonement episode. But he came out and questioned the virgin birth and the validity of it, and then he questioned the necessity of it. So the necessity of the virgin birth is that Jesus had to be truly human, but he had to be truly God. So he was born in a supernatural way, but though he was born that way, he was human in his time on the earth, and so that's a core doctrine.
Speaker 1:The virgin birth is a doctrine of scripture, um, and it's mainstream, and now you get variations and disagreements on on some things. But a religion is going to have a core doctrinal system where a cult is going to be very secret. You're maybe not going to know what people believe, um, until you get to the inside. You know there's a lot of questions surrounding things that go on behind closed doors in that system. And so a religious system, you know, when we think of major world religions again, we think of Buddhism.
Speaker 1:Islam, hinduism, christianity, judaism those are mainstream global religions, but then a lot of cults are going to be a spin off of one of those, and so Mormonism is a spin off of Judaism and Christianity. And so then, you know, there's a gray area where people would disagree. Some people would say, well, mormonism is not a cult, it's a religion. No, it's a cult because it's a perversion of Christianity, but it's very secret. So, anyway, I'm looking forward to it. I just said a lot more than I planned on saying in this episode about what's coming up, but I think I'm very excited, and I think you'll find the interview with Josh Haskell that's coming out later this week to be very insightful and helpful. I learned a lot, I mean, I learned a whole lot, um, and then I wanted to uh just take today's episode, take some time and just work through some uh, some some comments we had. Um, I'm excited about, uh, some upcoming episodes. I'm going to be interviewing JB and I will be interviewing it might even be just JB, I don't know, but I I'd like to be involved in the interview, um, with a young lady who has got a really dynamic testimony. She grew up coming to SWO. Um, there's a good chance. Matter of fact, her story will end up in the no sanity stories book that's coming, uh, that that we're putting together this winter. Um, so anyway, the the a couple of episodes coming up, one with with a young lady whose story is one of growing up, coming to SWO, involved in, you know, families in ministry, and she ended up in a crazy situation in college and the Lord. I don't want to, I don't want to give too much of her story away, but I'm looking forward to that. And then I'm going to sit down in a few weeks here with a lady that that served at SWO for a decade and has one of the most amazing stories of her life, story like what she grew up in, what she came from, how God brought her to Snowbird as a 14-year-old, gave her life to Christ, and then how she served and worked here so faithfully for several years, and just some crazy stuff that she's accomplished in her life. It's an amazing story. Her name's Ann. I'm excited for you all to hear from Ann. So we've got some good interviews coming up.
Speaker 1:We've got an episode that we've been sitting on with a former FBI agent who deployed with special operations in the military. He was FBI. He was in the military. He was on a nuclear naval submarine during the 90s, got out of the military, went into the FBI and then ended up on a task force or like a program where FBI agents would deploy with special operations, sf teams and folks from the special operations community and they would deploy with those guys during the war on terror because they were needing to collect information from high-value targets. And this guy's story's wild man. He's a really good personal friend of mine, his name's Clay and somebody I consider a really close brother, both me personally and the ministry here at Snowbird. But I really appreciated I'm looking forward to interviewing him. We did an interview on his naval service and just kind of his time going into the FBI.
Speaker 1:But then after that interview we sat around and talked some more at a fire that evening and we really got into sort of the theology of God's sovereignty and how that grounds a person before they go into combat. It's kind of a different take, a different conversation for people that are considering the military or law enforcement. A lot of people struggle with PTSD and this guy hasn't really struggled with that even though he's been in some pretty intense combat environments. And I asked him. I asked Clay. I said man, do you think that, because you were 38 years old when you deployed, you're already very established in your theology, the framework of how you view God and his sovereignty, did that prepare you? And he said a hundred percent. And he talked about things he read and in ways that he prepared his heart and mind. I'm excited to get him back to the microphone and interview him. So we've we've held the. We interviewed him a couple months back, but we've sat on that first interview because we want to have a couple of follow-ups and then drop those subsequently. Um, just boom, boom, boom, with two or three conversations with Clay. That's coming up, uh, also coming up.
Speaker 1:We're going to be interviewing folks that have been part of the Element program here. That's L-M-N-T Leadership Mentorship, next Generation Training. Element is a program that's a really dynamic program here. It's phenomenal. Jb is a leader in that program. She has a really heavy hand in the leadership of that program and I'm excited to meet with JB and I will have a conversation about it. We'll probably bring Zay in. Zay worked this past summer on the on in the element program leading. He was one of the leaders for the guys team, so we have about 20 guys and 20 gals 20 guys, 20 girls that come in for the summer, so 40 students high school students between 10th and 12th grade and it's a it's a leadership program, it's it's heavy discipleship and mentorship and it's an amazing program. We have, uh, three to four men and three to four women that lead that program, so it's a big staff for that program and it's a program that a lot of people have a lot of questions about and are interested in. So I'm looking forward to to sit down and have a conversation about that Um, and then we're going to do uh, let me see what else we've got coming up.
Speaker 1:One that I'm really excited about is I'm going to interview my sister, rocky. Raquel Mabry is Zach Mabry's wife and she's my sister. My mom and stepdad raised Rocky. She came into the family after I was grown and out of the house. As a matter of fact, I was little and I were already married. But, um, she's my sister and, um, I love her so much and her story is amazing. I mean, it's crazy. Her story is wild. Some of y'all have heard it, cause I used it a few years ago, um, when we were doing a series on Ruth, um at a SWO event and I and I did tell her story is fascinating. Rocky comes from a family I'll tell you this much of the dynamic Her father, biological father, murdered her biological mother when Rocky was four years old and, um, and it's just a crazy story. It's a story that really helps me understand the sovereignty of God. So I'm looking forward to that uh with Rocky and let's see what else.
Speaker 1:Some episodes that folks have asked about that I think will be really interesting. We're going to talk about the staff selection and application process here. That'll be later, like late in the semester, as we get close to closing out staff applications, how we put together our current application, the history of how we got to where we're at, and then Issa and Zay and JB will all be on that episode and we're just going to talk through what it looks like to apply to serve here and then just some talking points that folks have asked about the death penalty. These will be shorter episodes, sort of like beyond the flannel graph, but a little bit more maybe harder topics of boundaries with the opposite sex stories from the mission field I'm going to talk about um, uh, I'm going to have a conversation with little about the pinwheel program. So looking forward to a lot of the content that we've got laid out. These are all the things I'm most of what I've shared with you here we don't yet have recorded. We have recorded the Josh Haskell interview, we have recorded the first interview with um Clay Hicks and, uh, then we got a lot of cool interviews coming up. Uh, the last one I wanted to share with you I'm going to do episode.
Speaker 1:I going to do an episode on motifs and themes in scripture, because in scripture you'll see a theme or a motif that runs as a thread through scripture, for instance, rocks or stones. You'll see that a lot. You'll see whales a lot. Jesus meets a woman at a whale. He uses water as an analogy or metaphor. You see whales throughout the old Testament a lot. So motifs in scripture. And then I'm going to sit down.
Speaker 1:One thing I'm really looking forward to is JB and I sit down with Nikki Smith. Nikki oversees the entire Element program. So JB runs and works on the girl's side of Element, zay works on the guy's side. Nikki oversees the entire program, but Nikki is also. She has her master's degree from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Christian counseling and she's got a ton of wisdom, 20 years of experience here at SWO. She's been with us going on 20 years and is just a phenomenal source of wisdom and counsel and handles a lot of hard conversations here and she does it with strength and firmness but with gentleness. And so we're going to Nikki and I are going to have a conversation about hard counseling situations and sort of our approach to that. And then we're going to get into some things like homosexuality, codependency, just wisdom in how we navigate and deal with those types of situations. I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1:So here we are, 20 minutes into this episode and all I've done is give you all a preview of what's coming. But I thought it would be a good time to hit pause and look forward and sort of give you some direction on where we're going over the next few months, and I'm real excited about it. So what I want to do for the rest of this episode is I'm going to just give y'all some comments, read some listener comments and then give some comments back on those. The feedback that I've gotten over the last couple of years that we've gotten about this podcast has been phenomenal. We've, to this point, we've never been monetized. We don't get sponsorships. We don't.
Speaker 1:We just this is very organic, I guess is the word sort of blue collar, sort of grassroots, I don't know the best way to say it, but it's just. It's very down to earth, is what I think maybe would be a good way to describe it. So this podcast is very down to earth. The way we do things is very down to earth, and that's true of the way we do things at Snowbird in general. Just want to be real.
Speaker 1:I read an article in Family Devotions this morning about a guy that he takes pictures with an old school camera and he doesn't edit or doctor anything. He just wants to show things as they are, and I think that's something that we try to do here just be real and be raw and be as authentic as we can be, and it seems to be working. We're not trying to be cringey, we're not trying to say things for shock factor value, we're not trying to be cutesy or funny, just trying to have conversations and give you content. That's encouraging. And so these comments give testimony to the fact that I think we're doing that and the Lord's blessing it. But also I have hundreds of conversations. I mean hundreds, not dozens, hundreds. I think it's important to emphasize that, like in a normal event at SWO where we've got, say, we've got 600 people here, man, I'll have a couple dozen conversations about NSR People are listening to this thing.
Speaker 1:I don't. I mean every single week, tens of thousands of people are listening and I'm just blown away by that, so very encouraged by it. I want to give you some comments that we've gotten from listeners. A lot of these are on specific episodes. So here's a comment from Moultrie, georgia. Please thank Blake and Taylor for sharing their story. That's Blake and Taylor. Blake's the firefighter that we posted this a couple months back. I don't remember what episode number this was, but he's a firefighter who they've been through a lot together in their marriage. Just a lot of it related to his career in their marriage, just a lot of it related to his career. It's so good to hear and be reminded of how God is redeeming us through our tough situations and so good to see people fighting for their marriage. I'll be praying for them and their hearts and their family. It's so good to be reminded how much God loves us, especially in our messiness. Thank you from Moultrie, georgia. Thank you for that comment, because the reason I think this comment is important is when someone comes onto a stage or a platform, you know, like NSR, or they get up in front of their church and they share, they end up in some sort of a spotlight. I believe and I've seen this to be true that the devil's now going to really come after you. So when Blake and Taylor agreed to do this, one of the things we talked about is and the devil's going to come after y'all, because now that your story's out there, if he can bring you down, you know it's going to have a greater, broader impact, and so I appreciate that this commenter said I'll be praying for them and for their family. So do that. And so thank you again to Blake and Taylor for allowing us to bring them on and for the Lord to use their story to encourage others.
Speaker 1:This is Daniel from Jacksonville, florida, brody. My name's Daniel. I'm a member of Hibernia Baptist Church in Fleming Island. I've had the privilege to hear you speak here before and I'm looking forward to hearing you on August 10th. So this is about a month old comment, and I actually did, uh, talk to Daniel when I was there. It was great meeting him and his family, so shout out to Daniel and his family. Um, his girls, um got to meet, uh, his wife, just awesome. Family loves the Lord and their diehard hunters.
Speaker 1:And I learned something in that conversation. They have a. You know those little dogs, they're wiener dogs. What are they called? Dachshunds? Is it dachshund? Is that what the wiener dog breed is called? I think it is. But anyway, they have these little dachshund cross dogs that they use to track deer, and Daniel's wife said it's crazy how effective it is. So anyway, that was pretty interesting and sent me down a YouTube rabbit hole. But anyway, daniel asks are you going to be bringing any of your books with you when you come? Oh, I did not take books, I forgot them. I had a case of books I was going to take and I forgot them. So, daniel, I know you listen weekly. If you'll text me we exchanged contact info. If you'll text me your address, I'll put a book in the mail for you.
Speaker 1:I also wanted to share with you that my daughter came to SWO during week five this past summer and the Holy Spirit really spoke to her heart. Whenever she got home, the first thing she did was come and talk to me and tell me that she was lost and was ready to accept Jesus as her savior. I just wanted to share that with you so that you could rejoice with me. Thank you for being faithful to God's calling, looking forward to hopefully being able to spend some time with you in conversation whenever you're here. We did get to talk briefly, and Daniel did share that with me about his daughter, which to me, is the best. That's the most amazing scenario. A kid comes here, the Lord opens their heart. While they're here, they really begin to respond to the gospel, the Holy Spirit begins to do the work, and then she goes home and talks with her parents and embraces Christ. That is the most powerful. Beautiful like that. If we could script it, that would be it. Unfortunately, the majority of the kids that end up here don't have a dad like daniel, so they don't have a dad to go home and talk to, but some do, and this story just blesses me and so I wanted to share it with you. That comment is a huge blessing. So thanks, daniel, thanks for sharing, thanks for commenting and also thanks for coming up and talking to me when I was, when I I was speaking there um a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1:Next is from Branson, missouri. Love to listen to your podcast and all the wonderful pastors from Red Oak church. So it's a reference to, uh, you know NSR is a podcast. Uh, that's a ministry of snowbird wilderness outfitters, but, um, the church that I'm affiliated with is red Oak church and our teaching podcast is something that's um, that a lot of our listeners also listen to. Snowbird has a second podcast Also. We have two podcasts this one and then our teaching podcast. So there's really three resources that we're connected to here the red Oak sermon podcast it's our weekly sermon that we're connected to here. The Red Oak Sermon Podcast it's our weekly sermon. The Snowbird Teaching Podcast, which is all teaching content at Snowbird Wilderness Outfitters, and then this podcast, the NSR Podcast. Love to listen to your podcast, all the wonderful pastors from Red Oak Church. God is doing great work through all of you.
Speaker 1:I'm a new pastor in Missouri. One day I hope to bring some students to camp and see camp. I a new pastor in Missouri. One day I hope to bring some students to camp and see camp. I can't wait to visit Red Oak. Do you have seminars for husbands and wives? Thank you for your faithfulness to the kingdom. Yes, we do have a marriage conference late October. Now, that is, it is full, it is booked, but we are trying to, we're trying to open up some more spots just to figure out a way to creatively squeeze more people in Um, so so check that out. Um, that might be something that you would enjoy coming to. It's always very well attended and, uh, it's a it's a good time for us. It's coming up at the end of October.
Speaker 1:Um, I also want to say um in reference to red oak church. Uh, I didn't mention this earlier, but one of the podcast episodes that's not on the list but it's on my kind of the back of my mind is I want to sit down with, uh, the two guys that are paid staff or like vocational, like on staff at our church. Um, they're now, when I say paid, these guys are making sacrifices. They could both be making a lot more money at larger churches because they're both very gifted and talented dudes and they've had amazing opportunities. We have a few paid staff, quite a few part-time folks. So when I say that, I don't want it to sound like these guys are making a big bunch of money, because they are not, but guys that are vocational, you know they're either by vocational or they're full-time doing this, and so I want to sit down with our team because we are a small town.
Speaker 1:You'll never grow a big church in this town, because Andrews town, the city of Andrews, north Carolina, is like I don't know, 1,200 or 1,400 people. And then the greater Andrews town, the city of Andrews, north Carolina, is like I don't know, 12 or 1400 people. And then the greater Andrews area. If you take the surrounding area, you get, you know, that number of get up above 2000 maybe, but that's in a pretty big area geographically. And then it takes well over an hour to drive across our County and in this County, um, there's like 25,000 people and in this county there's like 25,000 people. So you know I get tickled.
Speaker 1:I got a buddy, steve Finn. Y'all know Steve, he's been on here before and he lives in Morgantown, west Virginia, and he'll say you know, we're just a small town and you look up the population of Morgantown and it's like 60,000 people and I'm like I guess everybody's version it's relative. He came from Atlanta. Atlanta is the greater Atlanta area, there's millions of people. He moved to Morgantown. There's 50,000, 60,000 people, whatever. That's a small town to him, to me Morgantown's a big city. So everything's relative. So what I want to do is I want to do an episode with our guys about what it's like to pastor and do ministry in a small town, because our guys are so effective and I feel like the Lord's given us a lot of favor in this community and anyway it'd be fun to share that. But thank you from Branson, missouri, next from Gainesville, georgia.
Speaker 1:As a 58-year-old woman, this episode really hit home. I loved it. It was almost as good as the episodes when we get to hear from JB. I'm not sure which episode she's talking about. She did the emoji where the eyeballs are crossed and the tongue's hanging out. She loves hearing from JB, apparently, which is awesome. I'm really thankful because one of the biggest moves I think we've made at NSR is bringing JB in and getting her involved. She's just been phenomenal. Jb is one of those people that just gives you a lot of confidence and hope for this younger generation that's just entering the workforce and coming into adulthood. I mean JB, you would never know she's as young as she is, she's wise beyond her years and um, so anyway, I appreciate that this is recognized. This 58 year old woman, anyway, um, she loved hearing from JB.
Speaker 1:She says thanks for always speaking truth boldly and unapologetically. Nsr is my favorite podcast man. Thank you, thank you, thank you. What a blessing to read that. That's so cool. Um, from Memphis, tennessee, just wanted to say say thank you so much for all you do for the kingdom of Jesus Christ in making disciples, baptizing and teaching people to observe all that Jesus has commanded. Huge fan.
Speaker 1:Having a platform that is deep in scripture and the true meaning of and also hard truth that doesn't beat around the bush is hard to find, but not at NSR. How do you train others in a way to share the gospel? Sharing the gospel and making disciples is my passion. I love hearing how others do what God has called us to do. So that was from Memphis, tennessee, and that's a good question. We just teach our folks to just share the good news of the gospel. We train them what the gospel is. We've got some different on ramps for how to get into conversation, but there's a there's a lot of different strategies and ways to do it and, um, and it's something we try to help our people focus on and emphasize. But thank you from Memphis, tennessee, that was awesome. Thank you from Mobile, alabama.
Speaker 1:Listen to the most recent no Sanity Required podcast and remembering all the things the Lord did in my life at SWO back in 2008. Wow, so this guy or gal came to SWO in 2008 and is now an avid listener of NSR. I just graduated high school and had all these plans to go to college and become a high school math teacher. I can very vividly remember standing there in a worship service and the Lord telling me that was not his plan for me. I bawled, I knew it wasn't. I attempted to follow through with my plans anyways. It didn't work out. I dropped out of college before the first semester ended.
Speaker 1:I'm now homeschooling my four kids and running a homeschool co-op in our area. So maybe this is a mom. I'm not sure. I said a guy, I'm not sure. Maybe it's a mom. Quite the opposite. Yep, it's a lady. Okay, sorry, quite the opposite of my plans. I also met my husband of 15 years at SWO. We were both campers. We met on Picnic Rock while whitewater rafting and ended up going to old school at the same time later that summer. I love that. Old school was a program we used to have here that we don't do anymore. But how cool is that. She met her husband at SWO. That's so cool. And they've been married 15 years and got four kids and she's running the homeschool co-op in their area.
Speaker 1:I love hearing of other people's life changes because of this ministry. It truly is special. I love hearing of the growth of the ministry over the years, praying for y'all as you continue to minister to young people at SWO. Um, that was cool. Where was that one? From Mobile, alabama? This is from a guy named Sean Um and he says this and he's responding to the episode. No one drifts toward holiness. Relevant appraisal of current cultural Christian experiences.
Speaker 1:This podcast forces me to align my attitude with that of Christ. As I meet and encourage people, I we must diligently study God's word to be trained well by the Holy Spirit for the purpose to exalt Christ. So thanks, sean, appreciate that. And then from Adam, thank you so much, mr Holloway. He called me Mr Holloway, so I don't want to see that he might be being funny. No, I think this is a young guy who's being sincere. Adam, call me Brody, please. Pretty casual here. Uh, thank you for the respect that you're showing there, um, and I appreciate that, but I would. I would invite you to call me Brody, um, think that'd be awesome. Adam says thank you so much, mr Holloway.
Speaker 1:This episode was awesome. The interview with Mo was really cool. That's from the episode where I interviewed Lely and Mo came on at the beginning. So people love Mo. That's awesome to hear, thank you. And then from Kate Olmsted, this made me want to jump back into reading Ruth. Beyond the flannel graph episodes are probably my favorites and that was a comment on God of Ruth, god of Now episode we did back early in the summer. So there's some comments from NSR and thank you for leaving those comments everyone who did and just ask you to do that in the future. It was wonderful to sit down and read all of those. It was so encouraging to me and um, so I appreciate it and so I'm going to finish this episode with I'll just change microphone, so I don't know if it changed the I needed to get my headset on for this one but um, so my son Tucker a lot of our listeners know he's a wide receiver and punt returner for Virginia Tech Off to an 0-2 start Seasons.
Speaker 1:It's been a rough start, but week one we played the University of South Carolina at Mercedes-Benz Stadium and Tuck got. He was in the game a lot, but he never got targeted for any passes, returned a couple punts and so he was definitely in the action. But this past week against Vanderbilt, we lost a pretty rough loss. But early in the game Tech was leading 3-0, still first quarter and Tuck got his first reception of the season. So West Durham is my favorite. I'm pretty sure this is West Durham calling it. We were at the game so I wasn't watching it on TV, but this was West Durham play calling. I love the way he calls. I was going to play that for you.
Speaker 1:Proud dad moment. First catch of the season 33 yard reception to midfield. So that was cool. We were there, we were going crazy. Laylee was there, me little Laylee, zach, rocky, their boys, my brother shout out to duke. Duke was there with his wife and my two nephews, um, juju and mo were there. I mean, it was a lot of people at the game. Uh, zach, I mean I'm sorry. Rob, adam and spencer were there. These are names. If you're, if you're, familiar with the swO team, you know these folks and so, anyway, um, that was fun, even though we got whooped. Uh, hopefully we'll get the season turned around, hopefully we'll get something going here, but uh, that was cool, tuck's first catch of the year. He actually had two catches for 43 yards. So, um, yeah, it was a good day for tuck, bad day for the Hokies, which I guess the bad day for tuck also, but as a dad, it's just fun seeing your kid do well.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, thank y'all for listening to this week's episode. This is, uh, this is today's episode, but we are going to drop a couple more. Uh that we'll get those. Uh, the book for the, the interview with Josh Haskell who came out of the Mormon church, uh, we'll. The first episode will drop later this week and then we'll follow it with part two next week. So look for that coming up and uh, thank y'all, and uh, we'll talk to you soon.
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