No Sanity Required
No Sanity Required is a weekly podcast hosted by Brody Holloway and Snowbird Outfitters. Each week, we engage culture and personal stories with a Gospel-driven perspective. Our mission is to equip the Church to pierce the darkness with the light of Christ by sharing the vision, ideas, and passions God has used to carry us through 26 years of student ministry. Find more content at swoutfitters.com.
No Sanity Required
What It Means to be a Faithful Citizen During an Election
In this bonus episode of No Sanity Required, we share audio from Red Oak Church’s corporate prayer time last Sunday, focused on the upcoming election. Brody emphasizes the importance of Christians actively engaging in their right to vote by choosing leaders who reflect biblical values. While it's essential to be good citizens and participate in the civic process, we must remember that only Jesus can truly fulfill our deepest needs.
Brody also highlights four key principles from the life of Daniel: recognizing God’s sovereignty, pursuing holiness, living with conviction, and using our influence for good. As we navigate this upcoming election, it's crucial to keep in mind that our ultimate goal is spiritual revival, not just political reform.
4 Principals that Daniel taught us:
- God is sovereign and He has a plan.
- We must resolve and live with conviction.
- Daniel built His whole life on the pursuit of holiness and faithfulness to the Word of God and prayer. He is consistent and constant.
- Daniel used the opportunities God gave him to influence government, policy, and institutions with the Truth of God's Word. We should use the same opportunities.
1 Corinthians 14:8
Zach Mabry’s Article
Red Oak Church Sessions
What Does the Bible say About Self-Defense NSR Episode
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Hey, in this bonus episode of no Sanity Required, I'm going to share some thoughts on the upcoming election that I shared with our church this past Sunday. We've shared a little bit on the election here recently. I haven't really devoted an entire episode to it, but I do want to share with y'all the audio from the corporate prayer time at Red Oak Church this past Sunday. Had a lot of feedback from it. A lot of folks asked if we would cut that out of the YouTube feed from the Sunday evening worship service and make it available as just the audio. So we're going to do that here. Um, um, the audio. So we're going to do that here. I'll give some thoughts about it, a little bit of a explanation, and and then come back after it's done and give you some some closing thoughts, things to think about as we prepare to go to the polls on Tuesday. Welcome to no Sanity.
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Speaker 1:Required from the Ministry of Snowbird Wilderness Outfitters a podcast about the Bible culture and stories from around the globe. At our church at Red Oak and I've mentioned the Lord's just blessing growing like crazy. It's pretty amazing how many people are attending every Sunday and there's always like a fine line as a pastor, I don't want to go into the pulpit. We, as pastors and elders, don't want to go to the pulpit and turn it into like a political thing. But the reality is in Scripture and you hear a lot of Christians say we don't need to mix politics in the church and we don't need to, and people are freaked out that they're going to be called Christian nationalists or right wing fanatics or whatever. Listen, when you study the Bible, there's so much clear teaching. We're going to link to this episode an article that Zach Mabry just wrote for SWO about this very thing. But the reality is, when you look through Old Testament history in Israel and New Testament writings of Paul and Peter and also the teachings of Jesus, the scripture calls Christians to be active, indeed to be proactive, in the government process and it just happens that we live in a form of. We live in a time, in a nation where a form of government that we have had never been. I mean, we're the first in history to do what we do. It's a democratic republic, it's a government that is designed where the people, who are the citizens, basically govern themselves through representatives, and that's why you have an election process. But we don't just elect a president, we elect officials at every level. You elect officials for your town and or county, your school board, local law enforcement officials, ie the sheriff. Then you elect officials at the state level that represent you and your state capital, elect officials at the state level that represent you and your state capital. Those are representatives and senators and governors, and attorney general, which is the head law enforcement officer for the state. And then at the federal level, again, not state senators and congressmen, but US senators and US congressmen that represent you at the federal level in DC, and then we elect a president. So, from top to bottom, everyone is represented in government. That's the form of government we have. And so the election process.
Speaker 1:I think a lot of times people think well, I don't want to vote because I don't like either one of these candidates. But our responsibility is to use the morality and the conviction of Scripture to try to put people in office who are going to best uphold the biblical principles and teachings and morality. People say, well, you can't legislate morality. Well, that's stupid. Of course you can slate morality. Well, that's stupid, Of course you can.
Speaker 1:We have laws on the books about the age of consent for sexual activity. We have laws on the books about there are parameters for what relationships can be. We have a law against polygamy. What is that? That's a moral law. We have a law that says you cannot be married to multiple people. We have laws about sexual assault. We have laws about physical assault. We have laws about theft. What is all that? That's all morality.
Speaker 1:It's crazy to say you can't legislate morality. If you can't legislate morality, then you can't have any laws. So the opposite of that would be anarchy, where Mike makes right, everybody does what's right in their own eyes, and so it's just crazy to say that. Don't say that, and then don't say, don't think that well, if I vote, I mean if I speak out about political issues, then I'm just a Christian nationalist. No, you're not. You're using your voice. We need people with wisdom and strength and courage to speak up.
Speaker 1:One of the things we know to be true in scripture is that the Lord cares for the marginalized, the alien, which would be, in our context, the immigrant, the orphan and the widow, the impoverished, and so there's a way to go about caring for all those people. The child in the womb, I think, is where it starts. Scripture is very clear that before a person is formed in the womb, they're known by god, and so life, life in the womb, should be fought for and protected. There's a, there's a right process for immigration. We, we don't we don't want to keep people from coming to this country. We don't want to. We don't want to build a wall in the sense that we want to block everybody out. We want to have a process, a vetting process, where the people that come here are welcomed here because they come and they contribute to society and they assimilate themselves into society.
Speaker 1:A lot of times people will misquote Old Testament scripture to say, hey, god wants us to take care of aliens and immigrants. Yes, he does, but when you go back, I'd be careful using that example, because when you go back to the Old Testament, when someone was going to assimilate into Israel, they had to go through a conversion to Judaism, like they had to renounce their pagan gods. So I would say be careful how much you compare the Old Testament scripture to our current situation. So there's a process that needs to take place. There is a need for order in society, a need for order in society With that order. There's a need for there to be order in the way that we grow our nation and our country, both biologically, through childbirth and adoption and all of those things that might grow from within our nation.
Speaker 1:And then there's a way, a healthy way, to grow our nation with immigration and to open up doors of opportunity for people from other places. There's a right way to do it, and so, as Christians, when we vote and when we take part in elections, we're taking part in that. So there's all these different things you can. We do want laws that reflect the moral and righteous character of God. We do want to protect the marginalized in our society. We do want to make a way for people to come here for a better life, but they need to be vetted and they need to go through a process. These are things that Christians have a voice in. We do want to build a strong economy. There's a saying that no economy ever grew strong through taxation, and so Christians should fight to see candidates come into office that are going to not add to the tax burden but are going to work to take it away. Jesus said render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. He said that of taxes.
Speaker 1:So Jesus taught us how to interact with the government, and so a lot of people will say well, jesus was, you know, he was submissive to government authority. That is not entirely true. Jesus was executed because he would not abide by Roman and Jewish laws. He claimed to be God, which in the Jewish law was blasphemy, and he claimed to be a king, the king of kings, which in the Roman context would get you killed. So I'd say be careful saying that Jesus wasn't a revolutionary or whatever A lot of people love to say he's a revolutionary and they'll say well, he's revolutionary in the way that he taught us to turn the other cheek and live and be content with poverty and not be materialistic and care for sinners and all that's true. Jesus stirred the pot. I mean we mentioned in that clip that you're going to hear from Red Oak. It was, you know. Jesus said I didn't come to bring peace, but a sword.
Speaker 1:So we also see the interaction with government, from Daniel, from Esther, from many of the prophets that would interact with the king. Jeremiah gave a prophecy that Israel, when they would be carried off into Babylon, that they should become productive and helpful citizens in that foreign land and that they should live in such a way that their citizenship impacted the society for the good. That's something that would carry over for us. I think that's a good, clear teaching that Christians should be good citizens and take part in the civil process, the civic process, the civil process. So all of that to say, we need to participate and take part, but at the same time, we need to participate and take part, but at the same time, we need to remember that your favorite candidate in any given election, any given election not just this upcoming presidential election, but from mayors to governors, to representatives, to presidents there's never going to be a candidate or a person who holds office who is going to do for you what only Jesus can do for you. I'll tell you this right now no matter what happens in any election, jesus is not rattled and he doesn't relinquish any facet of his control and dominion and authority and sovereignty. I'm going to vote. I'm going to vote with conviction. I'm going to vote hoping that the people that I vote for, the judges that I vote for, that are pro-life. I'm going to hope that they win, but at the end of the day, I'm going to trust the results to the Lord because I believe he is ultimately in control. I really believe that. But we need to take part and we need to do our part. So share some things with you that we shared at church this past Sunday and I'll come back at the end of this. One more thing to set this up At the beginning of this, I'll pull some excerpts from the message that I did on Daniel and the exile to Babylon, where there's a lot of comparison.
Speaker 1:When Daniel and those boys were carried off, they were castrated, they were degendered, and there's a lot of modern parallel to that. And that had been prophesied over a hundred years earlier. It had been prophesied Isaiah had gone to King Hezekiah and said hey, here's what's going to happen. Isaiah had gone to King Hezekiah and said hey, here's what's going to happen. There's going to be, we're going to be carried off. He basically said your grandsons, like your descendants, are going to be carried off into Babylon and they're going to be turned into eunuchs. They're going to be castrated.
Speaker 1:And the significance of that in that era was that when a king would conquer another people, he would take the brightest, most gifted young men and he would castrate them so that they would be loyal slaves and he would, and there would be no distraction to marriage, family relationship, they would just be faithful and loyal to him and then he would utilize their gifts and strengths and and then that's. And then they would. You know, guys that didn't offer them something like that. They would just kill them or enslave them a different way, usually kill them. Then they take the women and assimilate them into their culture by having their men marry those women. So it was like when Babylon came to take over Israel. Their goal was to absorb Israel into their society, but they didn't want to kill everybody. So they want to take the most gifted Israelites and take away their Jewish identity, their God-given identity, both their gender. So they emasculate those boys and then assimilate them into Babylonian culture and give them new names. So they got a new name, a new identity, a new sexual orientation or sexual, I guess, construct. They're castrated and there's a lot of parallel to what we're seeing today with young people. There's a lot of parallel to what we're seeing today with young people. Bottom line is, we need to put candidates in office that are going to put a stop to this kind of insanity. So that's the context.
Speaker 1:When you hear the first part of this, that's where that's coming from, so let's listen to it. I'll come back and wrap it up. I want to take just a few minutes, and tonight we're going to pray for the upcoming election, and we've talked about that a little bit over the last few weeks, and tonight I want to give you some thoughts. There's a verse that I want to read from 1 Corinthians, chapter 14, in verse 8. And it says If the bugle gives an indistinct sound, who will get ready for battle? And the principle in that verse is that God raises up pastors and leaders and folks who he expects to speak truth, and to speak truth specifically in the pulpit. And there's no question that in our day, the pulpit is a place where much compromise has occurred and continues to occur. And that being said, and I'm just going to tell you, I'm nervous right now and I'm always nervous when I preach. I'm not preaching tonight, I'm just doing the corporate prayer time but I feel a nervousness because anytime you bring even the idea of political conversation into the church, it's a very fine line, but some political things are more theological than others, and what 1 Corinthians 14 is saying is that the preacher needs to sound the trumpet and speak with clarity that sometimes informs issues that are theological in the public arena, the secular arena, the political arena. Now, tonight I'm not going to tell you what candidates to vote for, but we're going to speak to some biblical principles that need to matter to the believer and that should matter, because they align with the principles not only of God's word but with the heart of God.
Speaker 1:I want to read from the notes that goes all the way back to the series we did in Daniel, and just a couple of excerpts from a message that I did during that time, and it had to do with Daniel and a group of exiles being carried into a secular society and immersed in that culture, where they were emasculated, they were castrated, their identity was reassigned and they stood firm and held fast to the faith of their fathers and that which they had been instructed in, the way of the Lord, and they held fast to God's word. Even though they lived in a pagan and secular culture, they held so fast to God's word that ultimately, they incited change within that culture. It was Daniel who brought about God, used to bring about spiritual renewal. In fact, spiritual renewal was maybe not the right word because they were a pagan culture and there was massive conversion that happened because of his faithfulness in that secular culture, and that culture was called Babylon. He remained in a position of influence, not only in the Babylonian Empire, which lasted 70 years, but also in the Persian empire, and I think what we learned from Daniel is Babylon becomes this sort of symbolic picture or word that's used to describe the fallen world that we live in, and within that world are governments and ideologies and kingdoms and influences that try to shape or change the church.
Speaker 1:In some cultures, the goal is that Christians would be physically persecuted or imprisoned or executed for their faith, but in other cultures and I think more the culture that we're living in right now that the desire from the enemy is to infiltrate the church and turn her heart from within to the things of the world, to the ideas of Satan, to the ideas of an ideology that rejects the truth of scripture and the gospel. So I want to read from that sermon outline concerning Babylon we are living in a time when everything ordained by God is under attack from the world. The world has always been broken and dark, ever since the fall of man, but what we are experiencing in this generation is an ideological attack. Babylon celebrates that which breaks the heart of God. Think of this in terms of a modern, symbolic Babylon, which is what we're living in. God creates man and woman, male and female, and gives purpose and definition to marriage and sexuality. God says that he knows us before we are formed in the womb, thus sanctifying conception and legitimizing life. From that point, babylon says that this is oppressive, that it's bigoted. Babylon celebrates gender reassignment as heroic, but labels God's design for men as toxic. Babylon celebrates coming out of the closet as brave, but attacks the very idea of a biblical order of sexuality. Babylon celebrates an all-inclusive embrace of pagan ideologies and worldly religions in the name of tolerance, and yet they ridicule and mock and oppress and punish and call out and cancel those who trust in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and who believe in and submit to the authority of God's word. What God calls good, babylon calls evil. And Babylon celebrates as good that which the Lord, our God, abhors and that which Jesus Christ died to rescue us from. This is exactly what we're seeing occur in America and in the West today.
Speaker 1:The danger that our generation faces is not the danger of becoming Muslim or Buddhist or even just simply secular. The danger is embracing a new brand of Christianity that is not true Christianity. It's called progressive, but it is actually demonic. The danger that we face is an ideological brainwashing that promises that if you embrace the spirit of Babylon in this new age, you will be able to live at peace with this world. Only this is not the world we were created for. The Christ. Be able to live at peace with this world Only this is not the world we were created for. The Christ follower will never be at peace with this world. We can live at peace in this world, but never with it. That is what Jesus taught. He said I did not come to bring that kind of peace, I came to bring a sword.
Speaker 1:There's a rise in secular and progressive Christianity that embraces the ideology of a new moral and sexual revolution that rejects all that Jesus died to establish. And the scary thing is that Christians are abandoning the historic beliefs of our God and his word, trying to recreate and reimagine a secular version of Christianity in the gospel, a new kind of Christian, proclaiming a new kind of gospel that is informed by woke ideology, darwinian evolution, lgbtqia plus driven humanism. But Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever. The progressives will tell you either you have to choose the Bible or Jesus. They will tell you the Bible is outdated and it's not literally the word of God, but that Jesus has shown us the supreme earthly example of how to live and love and be inclusive and embrace what God calls sin. But this is a dilution and perversion of the word of God and we must reject it and we will reject it. Jesus spoke of hell twice as many times as he spoke of heaven and anytime he healed and restored and redeemed and renewed. He also called people to repentance.
Speaker 1:Greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world. Greater is he that is in this church, red Oak, than he that is in the world. Greater is the spirit of the living God inside each one of us who professes faith in Jesus than the spirit of Babylon, who is the prince and the power of the air. Who ises faith in Jesus than the spirit of Babylon, who is the prince and the power of the air, who is at work in the hearts and minds of people. Who is at work driving worldly governments, controlling like puppets presidents and candidates and prime ministers and dictators and congresswomen and mayors and senators and congressmen? Greater than the puppeteers in the halls of our universities, greater is the spirit of Yahweh in the hearts and minds and mouths of those who faithfully stand in the pulpits of our universities. Greater is the spirit of Yahweh in the hearts and minds and mouths of those who faithfully stand in the pulpits of our churches and preach the gospel than the God of this age, the spirit of Babylon, who is loosing the tongues of false teachers and preachers, who are amassing huge followings of those who would prefer to have their ears tickled and their souls teased and their consciences appeased.
Speaker 1:If Daniel taught us anything, here's four principles. And their conscience is appeased. If Daniel taught us anything, here's four principles. And then I want to give just a couple thoughts on how this would inform this coming election. Four principles and application. The first one is this God is sovereign and he has a plan. It seemed hopeless to Daniel and those exiles, but they held fast to Jeremiah's words that reminded them of God's sovereignty, that he would be with them in their exile in Babylon. The Lord is with us now. The second one we must resolve and live with conviction. Recognize that the biggest hurdle to living with gospel and biblical conviction to this may be that the world, what the world, offers us in exchange for our resolve and our conviction.
Speaker 1:Number three Daniel built his entire life on the pursuit of holiness and faithfulness to the word of God and prayer. We follow him for eight decades and it never changes. He's consistent. He's constant. At one point he was sentenced to death because of his unwavering commitment and fidelity to Yahweh. He did what he had always done. He could stand before the Lord and declare his innocence when the king of Persia called to him in the den of lines. He lived without regret or apology. And last, daniel used the platforms and opportunities afforded to him to influence government policy and institutions, and he did that with a conviction of the truth and the word of God. Read that again. It's the last one. Daniel used the platforms and opportunities afforded to him by God to influence government policy and institutions with the truth of the word of God, and so should we.
Speaker 1:So let me give you five things here as we look to next Tuesday and some of you have already voted, I know, but let me give you some things to think about. Number one we cannot always separate theology from political issues. Some things in the realm of politics are very theological. When it comes to that, we need to place value and priority on those things. This will affect how we vote in elections. This will affect how we vote in elections. Number two I'm going to give a quote from a pastor in Nashville, tennessee, that I agree with and that we as a leadership team here affirm and agree with.
Speaker 1:The Democrat party is a demonic cult and stronghold under the influence and power of Satan. That may be very controversial to say in the church, but it is purely based on their policy. The platform of the party is based on everything that God hates and speaks clearly to in his word. At the top of that list is the demand for personal autonomy, the sexualization and mutilation of our children and their bodies without parental consent and the wholesale murder of the unborn, created in the image of God and valued by him, as clearly defined and explained in the scripture. They do not hide this. They have defined and articulated their position on these things and have even performed abortions outside of the Democrat convention this past August.
Speaker 1:Number three that being said, the other party is not the party of Christianity or messianic deliverance, but many of their policies may align with biblical principle and truth. There are candidates who may not be born again, they may not be Christians, but who live out and fight for biblically principled law and legislation. Whether you feel like your vote matters or not, you've been given the opportunity, and with it the responsibility, to vote in such a way that evil is impacted and pushed back. There are no perfect candidates and none who will save us from the dominion of evil and sin in the world, but that's okay, because Jesus alone has already done that and will continue to do that. That being said, whoever is in the White House will not make or break the purpose and mission of Jesus for his church and his plan for redemptive history for the world. Whatever candidates win or lose, jesus is and will remain the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. That goes both ways. If your candidate wins, jesus is still where your worship and loyalty and identity lie, and if your candidate loses, jesus is still the hope for our country and for our future.
Speaker 1:Number four the gospel spreads fastest in those countries and cultures where it is persecuted the most. So this election will not determine in the least the trajectory of the gospel in the church of Jesus Christ, and we must simply strive to be obedient, first and foremost, to the calling of Jesus to take the gospel to the nations, and that begins at home. Number five, while elections matter, and we should practice stewardship and voting and be active in the process that God has put in front of us, we need to be on mission every day to minister to the needy in our community, the orphan, the widow, those in need, who we can touch with our lives, touching their lives today. We need to be on mission in our community. And last, our goal is ultimately spiritual revival, not political reform, and that comes through the proclamation of the gospel of Jesus and it comes through the discipleship of those of us who are in the church that we would be disciples and that we would make disciples.
Speaker 1:Paul wrote to the Romans in the same text, where he wrote that they suppressed the truth and unrighteousness and professed themselves to be wise. They became fools. And in that he wrote I am not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ. It's the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes. And so, while we're called to take part in stewarding the process that we've been given, as Daniel did. Our hope is in Christ. We vote with conviction. Been given, as Daniel did, our hope is in Christ. We vote with conviction. We we are active in the process because Christ has given us the platform and the freedom to do so, and we do it out of honor for for what he's provided for us, so that I'll pray over the upcoming election and, and and then we will go before the Lord in the hearing of his word.
Speaker 1:God, I pray that you would take your word and that you would inform our decisions when it comes to business and education and the political arena. Lord, there is much that we might not agree on, but, lord, when it comes to the things that matter most to you righteousness, justice, the sanctity of life, the sanctity and order of marriage, the structure of the home, the responsibility of parents to lead and guide and instruct their children, not the state to lead and guide and inform their children Lord I pray that we would be a church that is unwavering in our proclamation of the gospel and our fidelity to the word of God, and I pray that we would live and love and minister with conviction and that we would worship you as our one and living, and soon returning, king. Open our hearts now to your word and God. I pray that your blessing would be on this nation, this country. Lord, if that blessing comes in the form of rebuke and judgment, may we receive it as those who have hope, that we might use that as an opportunity to shine the light of that hope into the darkness and brokenness. Lord, if you spare that judgment for another season and we experience more prosperity and freedom, may we use that platform to reach the world with the gospel, to love the poorest among us, to minister to the widow and orphan and to care for those that you care so much for. Open our hearts. We pray in Jesus' name, amen.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I want you guys just to pray and ask the Lord to give you direction on how you might vote this coming election and then just how you might plug in and be a citizen. How might you be involved? Way back, I think, four years ago, season one, we did an episode on Christians and self-defense. We talked about how we have laws in a government that allow us to practice self-defense and firearms ownership, things like that, and one of the things that always comes up with. That is as a Christian.
Speaker 1:Why would you want to carry a gun when you might have to kill somebody? Well, I pray to God I would never, ever have to use a firearm to take another person's life, in my home or in defense of my family. I wouldn't do it in defense of property. If somebody said, hey, give me your wallet, I'd give them my wallet. I wouldn't shoot them. A lot of people disagree with that. I have some good friends, the guys that have done most of the firearms instruction, the classes I've taken. They would just say, no, shoot them. You don't know what they're going to do, but I don't know that I'm there. But the moment I feel like my life might be threatened or that of my family, I'm going to shoot to defend myself, and that's allowed in this government. You know the government that we live in or under.
Speaker 1:But the reason I'm bringing that up is to say, as Christians, there are going to be times where we have to wrestle through like, okay, there's a law that allows X, y or Z, but does that make it okay? Is this a moral law? Is it a righteous law? Righteous laws are laws that reflect the nature and character of God, like murder, is a righteous law to say you cannot commit murder and if you do, you will be punished to the full extent of the law. So we don't live in a perfect society, but we live in a society where we want to do our part to contribute, and sometimes we're going to have difficult decisions to make to determine how we're going to handle a given situation. And in those moments and times we need to seek the Lord and ask him how he might have us to take part, whether it's in elections, or how we abide by certain laws. Let's be citizens on mission and, if you get a chance, read the article that Zach wrote that's linked to this episode.
Speaker 1:I want to give, finally, a shout out to BJ and Kate Cox. They live in Southern Ohio and I got to spend some time in their home this past, over the last few days, over the last few days. Just the sweetest family man. They're good people and they listen to NSR. So thank you guys, love you guys. I'm grateful to have gotten to spend some time in your home, spend some time on your farm, love getting to know your family, and so I wanted to give them a shout out. Bj's been to several Be Strong conferences. That's how I know him and I'm hoping to get them down to a marriage retreat sometime.
Speaker 1:And they've got three awesome kids Aubrey she's a senior in high school and then two boys Cohen is 11 and Case is 14. I got to hang out with them Some cool cats and my son, tuck, got to hang out, got a day and a half off, which is rare, and so he came over and met me there and we got to spend some time together, do a little bit of hunting Not much, but we got a couple of days in, so I'm thankful. So anyway, thanks to the Cox family. Southern Ohio Love and appreciate you guys. Southern Ohio love and appreciate you guys. To the rest of you filthy animals have an awesome weekend, watch some football, eat some good food, worship Jesus on Sunday and make sure, somewhere near you, get a nap and we'll see you next time. No sanity required.
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